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I received the January Shop at Home catalog today. All of the new LoM sets
are shown as are the Mosaic and the new Dragon figure.
Probably the biggest news is the Train building contest. Three age groups:
7-12, 13-17, 18+ The winners will have their designs document and published
by LEGO on lego.com plus receive $100 worth of LEGO product.
Mike - mike_walsh@mindspring.com
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In lugnet.trains, Mike Walsh writes:
> I received the January Shop at Home catalog today. All of the new LoM sets
> are shown as are the Mosaic and the new Dragon figure.
>
> Probably the biggest news is the Train building contest. Three age groups:
> 7-12, 13-17, 18+ The winners will have their designs document and published
> by LEGO on lego.com plus receive $100 worth of LEGO product.
Hmm... tempting.
Na, 100 bucks isn't enough comp to lose the rights to one of my designs.
++Lar
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:
>
> In lugnet.trains, Mike Walsh writes:
> > I received the January Shop at Home catalog today. All of the new LoM sets
> > are shown as are the Mosaic and the new Dragon figure.
> >
> > Probably the biggest news is the Train building contest. Three age groups:
> > 7-12, 13-17, 18+ The winners will have their designs document and published
> > by LEGO on lego.com plus receive $100 worth of LEGO product.
>
> Hmm... tempting.
>
> Na, 100 bucks isn't enough comp to lose the rights to one of my designs.
>
> ++Lar
Yeah, I would be nice if one did not have to give up the copyright for one's
design. Additionally, I am guessing that this phrase is fairly standard, but the
fine print says, "Winners assume all liability for any injury or damage caused,
or claimed to be caused by participation in this promotion or use or redemption
of any prize."
Also, while reading the fine print I stumbled across a phrase that amused me.
"LEGO® has the right to alter winning designs at its discretion in order to
create building instructions for the Grand Prize winning models, prior to
posting the instructions online." I wonder how much some of the designs we have
seen here would be altered before publication.
It almost sounds like a cheap way for LEGOÆ to get ideas for their train line,
which, actually, is not a bad thing.
Here is a strange idea. Enter the contest and reject the prize with a politely
worded letter saying that you are not willing to give up your copyrights, but
that you are willing give LEGO® a nonexclusive royalty free license for the
design. It would be quite a statement if all bunch of the winners declined the prize.
Christopher
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Well seing i am the only 12 year old who actually builds trains for shows, i
think i would have a good chance for the 7-12 age group. I highly doubt
there are any 12 year olds out there that are as good as people here
including me !
In lugnet.general, Christopher Masi writes:
> Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> >
> > In lugnet.trains, Mike Walsh writes:
> > > I received the January Shop at Home catalog today. All of the new LoM sets
> > > are shown as are the Mosaic and the new Dragon figure.
> > >
> > > Probably the biggest news is the Train building contest. Three age groups:
> > > 7-12, 13-17, 18+ The winners will have their designs document and published
> > > by LEGO on lego.com plus receive $100 worth of LEGO product.
> >
> > Hmm... tempting.
> >
> > Na, 100 bucks isn't enough comp to lose the rights to one of my designs.
> >
> > ++Lar
Maybe we should start copywriting designs for our models so LEGO doesnt
snatch them up and gets rich off of our ideas when thier designers in
Denmark can even produce a peice of @$#%@$ to please a 12 year old who
enjoys modeling trains in lego. Taking our ideas.. JUST HIRE US FOR THE
DISIGNER POSTITION DANGIT AND STOP WITH THE BULLCRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!
thanks for listening to my bull
kai
> Yeah, I would be nice if one did not have to give up the copyright for one's
> design. Additionally, I am guessing that this phrase is fairly standard, but the
> fine print says, "Winners assume all liability for any injury or damage caused,
> or claimed to be caused by participation in this promotion or use or redemption
> of any prize."
>
> Also, while reading the fine print I stumbled across a phrase that amused me.
> "LEGO® has the right to alter winning designs at its discretion in order to
> create building instructions for the Grand Prize winning models, prior to
> posting the instructions online." I wonder how much some of the designs we have
> seen here would be altered before publication.
>
> It almost sounds like a cheap way for LEGOÆ to get ideas for their train line,
> which, actually, is not a bad thing.
>
> Here is a strange idea. Enter the contest and reject the prize with a politely
> worded letter saying that you are not willing to give up your copyrights, but
> that you are willing give LEGO® a nonexclusive royalty free license for the
> design. It would be quite a statement if all bunch of the winners declined the prize.
>
> Christopher
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In lugnet.general, Christopher Masi writes:
> "Winners assume all liability for any injury or damage caused,
> or claimed to be caused by participation in this promotion or
> use or redemption of any prize."
Whew. Well for a sec there I thought I wouldn't be able to enter my "poke
your eye out with a sharp stick flatcar load"...
> Also, while reading the fine print I stumbled across a phrase that amused me.
> "LEGO® has the right to alter winning designs at its discretion in order to
> create building instructions for the Grand Prize winning models, prior to
> posting the instructions online." I wonder how much some of the designs
> we have seen here would be altered before publication.
Based on what we've seen in the mania magazines, I suspect the answer would
be "potentially quite a bit".
++Lar
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Or go the high road and make an "Operation Lifesaver" boxcar.
see: http://www.oli.org/
Anyway Larry, you just don't want to loose agaisnt me in the over 30 group!
;D
SteveB
In lugnet.general, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.general, Christopher Masi writes:
>
>
> > "Winners assume all liability for any injury or damage caused,
> > or claimed to be caused by participation in this promotion or
> > use or redemption of any prize."
>
> Whew. Well for a sec there I thought I wouldn't be able to enter my "poke
> your eye out with a sharp stick flatcar load"...
>
> > Also, while reading the fine print I stumbled across a phrase that amused me.
> > "LEGO® has the right to alter winning designs at its discretion in order to
> > create building instructions for the Grand Prize winning models, prior to
> > posting the instructions online." I wonder how much some of the designs
> > we have seen here would be altered before publication.
>
> Based on what we've seen in the mania magazines, I suspect the answer would
> be "potentially quite a bit".
>
> ++Lar
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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Steven Barile writes:
> Or go the high road and make an "Operation Lifesaver" boxcar.
> see: http://www.oli.org/
>
> Anyway Larry, you just don't want to loose agaisnt me in the over 30 group!
> ;D
You're right, I don't want to be loose against you, too much chance of
damage, I have a lot of parts that might break off.
But I'm not worried about losing against you in the over 30 group, since
there isn't one. There's just an 18+ one, and based on how they've judged
stuff in the past, the best design doesn't always win. Since by definition
I'd be entering the best design, I'm not going to enter if I can't be sure
I'd win, not worth my time.
Besides, like I said, the prize is too small to be worth the bother and the
rights you give up are too huge.
++Lar
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In lugnet.general, Christopher Masi writes:
>
> Yeah, I would be nice if one did not have to give up the copyright for one's
> design. Additionally, I am guessing that this phrase is fairly standard, but the
> fine print says, "Winners assume all liability for any injury or damage caused,
> or claimed to be caused by participation in this promotion or use or redemption
> of any prize."
I find this phrase pretty funny. You surrender all rights to
your design, yet you are still responsible for it for any
damages that may be incurred. I wonder if that flies in court?
I assume it's to cover instances where someone submits a
ripped-off design. When the original owner goes after TLC,
TLC can stand there and say, "heeey, we didn't steal it, this
contestant did, go after him". Yet TLC now "owns" the design.
> Here is a strange idea. Enter the contest and reject the prize with a politely
> worded letter saying that you are not willing to give up your copyrights, but
> that you are willing give LEGO® a nonexclusive royalty free license for the
> design. It would be quite a statement if all bunch of the winners declined the prize.
I don't think you would have that option. All rights are probably
surrendered upon entry. You may certainly decline the prize but
TLC still keeps the design rights. For that matter, they would
possess the design rights to *all* entries. So even those that
do not win a prize could be exploited eventually, without anything
ressembling compensation.
KDJ
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LUGNETer #203, Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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In lugnet.general, Kyle D. Jackson writes:
> In lugnet.general, Christopher Masi writes:
> >
> > Yeah, I would be nice if one did not have to give up the copyright for one's
> > design. Additionally, I am guessing that this phrase is fairly standard, but the
> > fine print says, "Winners assume all liability for any injury or damage caused,
> > or claimed to be caused by participation in this promotion or use or redemption
> > of any prize."
>
>
> I find this phrase pretty funny. You surrender all rights to
> your design, yet you are still responsible for it for any
> damages that may be incurred. I wonder if that flies in court?
> I assume it's to cover instances where someone submits a
> ripped-off design. When the original owner goes after TLC,
> TLC can stand there and say, "heeey, we didn't steal it, this
> contestant did, go after him". Yet TLC now "owns" the design.
>
>
> > Here is a strange idea. Enter the contest and reject the prize with a politely
> > worded letter saying that you are not willing to give up your copyrights, but
> > that you are willing give LEGO® a nonexclusive royalty free license for the
> > design. It would be quite a statement if all bunch of the winners declined the prize.
>
>
> I don't think you would have that option. All rights are probably
> surrendered upon entry. You may certainly decline the prize but
> TLC still keeps the design rights. For that matter, they would
> possess the design rights to *all* entries. So even those that
> do not win a prize could be exploited eventually, without anything
> ressembling compensation.
I wonder if thats how 4561 was created :)
>
> KDJ
>
> _______________________________________
> LUGNETer #203, Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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"Kyle D. Jackson" <flightdeck@sympatico.deletethisspamblock.ca> wrote in
message news:G6Dr9K.B5y@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.general, Christopher Masi writes:
> >
> > Yeah, I would be nice if one did not have to give up the copyright for • one's
> > design. Additionally, I am guessing that this phrase is fairly standard, • but the
> > fine print says, "Winners assume all liability for any injury or damage • caused,
> > or claimed to be caused by participation in this promotion or use or • redemption
> > of any prize."
>
>
> I find this phrase pretty funny. You surrender all rights to
> your design, yet you are still responsible for it for any
> damages that may be incurred. I wonder if that flies in court?
> I assume it's to cover instances where someone submits a
> ripped-off design. When the original owner goes after TLC,
> TLC can stand there and say, "heeey, we didn't steal it, this
> contestant did, go after him". Yet TLC now "owns" the design.
What would probably happen is that TLC would work it out with the original
owner and then send you the bill for the resulting costs (legal + licensing
that they worked out with the original owner) and then sue you for damages
and fraud if you didn't cough up the money.
Mike
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Mike Faunce
mike at faunce dot com
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In lugnet.general, Mike Faunce writes:
>
> "Kyle D. Jackson" <flightdeck@sympatico.deletethisspamblock.ca> wrote in
> message news:G6Dr9K.B5y@lugnet.com...
> > In lugnet.general, Christopher Masi writes:
> > >
> > > Yeah, I would be nice if one did not have to give up the copyright for • one's
> > > design. Additionally, I am guessing that this phrase is fairly standard, • but the
> > > fine print says, "Winners assume all liability for any injury or damage • caused,
> > > or claimed to be caused by participation in this promotion or use or • redemption
> > > of any prize."
> >
> >
> > I find this phrase pretty funny. You surrender all rights to
> > your design, yet you are still responsible for it for any
> > damages that may be incurred. I wonder if that flies in court?
> > I assume it's to cover instances where someone submits a
> > ripped-off design. When the original owner goes after TLC,
> > TLC can stand there and say, "heeey, we didn't steal it, this
> > contestant did, go after him". Yet TLC now "owns" the design.
>
> What would probably happen is that TLC would work it out with the original
> owner and then send you the bill for the resulting costs (legal + licensing
> that they worked out with the original owner) and then sue you for damages
> and fraud if you didn't cough up the money.
>
> Mike
If lego did that to one of its loyal fans i would put all my legos on
the street, pour gasoline on it, lite it on fire, video tape it and send the
tape to lego and post the video on the web, if it did that.
kai
> --
> Mike Faunce
> mike at faunce dot com
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"kai brodersen" <cbrodersen@mediaone.net> wrote in message
news:G6ExxI.Hst@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.general, Mike Faunce writes:
> >
> > What would probably happen is that TLC would work it out with the • original
> > owner and then send you the bill for the resulting costs (legal + • licensing
> > that they worked out with the original owner) and then sue you for • damages
> > and fraud if you didn't cough up the money.
>
> If lego did that to one of its loyal fans i would put all my legos on
> the street, pour gasoline on it, lite it on fire, video tape it and send • the
> tape to lego and post the video on the web, if it did that.
> kai
Why?
If I stole your design and submitted it to an TLG contest and won, wouldn't
you be upset? If TLG then started producing your design for profit based on
my copyright release, wouldn't you be even more upset? You'd have lost
total control of your design. You may even have lost financial gain through
my activities.
If I was stealing someone else's work and submitting it to a LEGO contest as
my own, how loyal a fan am I? Remember the context. This is there to
protect the loyal LEGO fan who has published their work to the web. This
protects original designer, not the contestant who stole the design that was
entered.
This release gives TLG an out for this. If someone comes forward and can
prove that a contest submission is stolen, then TLG can work it out with the
original designer and then legally go after the submitter.
In effect someone who was willing to steal a design would be getting a
reasonable punishment IMHO.
Mike
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In lugnet.general, Mike Faunce writes:
<snip>
> If I was stealing someone else's work and submitting it to a LEGO contest as
> my own, how loyal a fan am I? Remember the context. This is there to
> protect the loyal LEGO fan who has published their work to the web. This
> protects original designer, not the contestant who stole the design that was
> entered.
>
> This release gives TLG an out for this. If someone comes forward and can
> prove that a contest submission is stolen, then TLG can work it out with the
> original designer and then legally go after the submitter.
>
> In effect someone who was willing to steal a design would be getting a
> reasonable punishment IMHO.
I don't usually post "I agree" posts but, I agree. While I am not happy
about loss of rights if I'm the originator, it is nice to see that maybe TLC
is going to do something about the cases where someone ELSE submits my work...
Kai, I think you read it wrong.
++Lar
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In lugnet.general, Mike Faunce writes:
>
> "kai brodersen" <cbrodersen@mediaone.net> wrote in message
> news:G6ExxI.Hst@lugnet.com...
> > In lugnet.general, Mike Faunce writes:
> > >
> > > What would probably happen is that TLC would work it out with the • original
> > > owner and >> >
> >
> > If lego did that to one of its loyal fans i would put all my legos on
> > the street, pour gasoline on it, lite it on fire, video tape it and send • the
> > tape to lego and post the video on the web, if it did that.
> > kai
>
> Why?
>
> If I stole your design and submitted it to an TLG contest and won, wouldn't
> you be upset? If TLG then started producing your design for profit based on
> my copyright release, wouldn't you be even more upset? You'd have lost
> total control of your design. You may even have lost financial gain through
> my activities.
>
> If I was stealing someone else's work and submitting it to a LEGO contest as
> my own, how loyal a fan am I? Remember the context. This is there to
> protect the loyal LEGO fan who has published their work to the web. This
> protects original designer, not the contestant who stole the design that was
> entered.
>
> This release gives TLG an out for this. If someone comes forward and can
> prove that a contest submission is stolen, then TLG can work it out with the
> original designer and then legally go after the submitter.
>
> In effect someone who was willing to steal a design would be getting a
> reasonable punishment IMHO.
>
> Mike
If you look where i posted my message it was after he said "then send you
the bill for the resulting costs (legal +licensing that they worked out with
the original owner) and then sue you for damages and fraud if you didn't
cough up the money."
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> If you look where i posted my message it was after he said "then send you
> the bill for the resulting costs (legal +licensing that they worked out with
> the original owner) and then sue you for damages and fraud if you didn't
> cough up the money."
Ummm...I believe the term "you" refers to the thief who submitted someone else's
work as their own. As in:
If YOU steal my work and I sue Lego it is perfectly reasonable for Lego to in
turn expect YOU (the thief) to reimburse them for any costs incurred in settling
their lawsuit.
Will
Lego Beach Fire and Rescue: www.crosswinds.net/~hokie
Bricksburg Depot: http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?p=willhess
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Christopher Masi wrote:
<snip>
> It almost sounds like a cheap way for LEGOÆ to get ideas for their train line,
> which, actually, is not a bad thing.
The first thing that came to my mind when I saw the ad for this contest
was that it was a good way for LEGO to judge the interest in making a
new train line like the one that has been discussed here and on
1000steine (lots of detail, automatic points, crossings, decouplers,
signal lights. maybe even DCC). With a contest, they can determine how
many people are interested (derived from the number of entrants plus
some extrapolation) in trains in each of the contest's age catagories as
well as the level of sophistication (and therefore level of expectation
of fans should they decide to go ahead with new TLC designs) of the
contestant's designs.
--
Thomas Main
main@appstate.edu
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Do you have to have a subscription to the lego club to get this, i havent yet..
In lugnet.general, Thomas Main writes:
> Christopher Masi wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > It almost sounds like a cheap way for LEGOÆ to get ideas for their train line,
> > which, actually, is not a bad thing.
>
> The first thing that came to my mind when I saw the ad for this contest
> was that it was a good way for LEGO to judge the interest in making a
> new train line like the one that has been discussed here and on
> 1000steine (lots of detail, automatic points, crossings, decouplers,
> signal lights. maybe even DCC). With a contest, they can determine how
> many people are interested (derived from the number of entrants plus
> some extrapolation) in trains in each of the contest's age catagories as
> well as the level of sophistication (and therefore level of expectation
> of fans should they decide to go ahead with new TLC designs) of the
> contestant's designs.
>
> --
> Thomas Main
> main@appstate.edu
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kai brodersen <cbrodersen@mediaone.net> wrote in message
news:G6GooI.C4t@lugnet.com...
> Do you have to have a subscription to the lego club to get this, i havent
yet..
I think it just comes in the latest (January) Shop At Home catalog. If you
aren't subscribed to their Shop At Home mailing list, call (800)453-4677 and ask
them [1]. I haven't gotten my January catalog yet, and I am on the list.
[1] That's not the exact number, but its TLC consumer affairs, and they can
point you in the right direciton. Plus, its the only number I have memorized
;-)
-Tim
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If they want ideas, I think they should look at Brian Williams site!!! and look at
Kathyrn, that's the kind of model I wish they'd bring out!
http://www.royal-train.com
Tamy
Thomas Main wrote:
> Christopher Masi wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > It almost sounds like a cheap way for LEGOÆ to get ideas for their train line,
> > which, actually, is not a bad thing.
>
> The first thing that came to my mind when I saw the ad for this contest
> was that it was a good way for LEGO to judge the interest in making a
> new train line like the one that has been discussed here and on
> 1000steine (lots of detail, automatic points, crossings, decouplers,
> signal lights. maybe even DCC). With a contest, they can determine how
> many people are interested (derived from the number of entrants plus
> some extrapolation) in trains in each of the contest's age catagories as
> well as the level of sophistication (and therefore level of expectation
> of fans should they decide to go ahead with new TLC designs) of the
> contestant's designs.
>
> --
> Thomas Main
> main@appstate.edu
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Mookie <Mookie1@telocity.com> wrote in message
news:3A50AF77.393534A2@telocity.com...
> If they want ideas, I think they should look at Brian Williams site!!! and • look at
> Kathyrn, that's the kind of model I wish they'd bring out!
> http://www.royal-train.com
>
> Tamy
That reminds me I should try to run over to his place while I'm still in
Chicago. I've been meaning to for quite some time, hopefully he has his stuff
set up.
-Tim
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> In lugnet.trains, Mike Walsh writes:
> > I received the January Shop at Home catalog today. All of the new LoM sets
> > are shown as are the Mosaic and the new Dragon figure.
> >
> > Probably the biggest news is the Train building contest. Three age groups:
> > 7-12, 13-17, 18+ The winners will have their designs document and published
> > by LEGO on lego.com plus receive $100 worth of LEGO product.
>
> Hmm... tempting.
>
> Na, 100 bucks isn't enough comp to lose the rights to one of my designs.
You miss the point.
1. It's an honor which is worth more than money can buy.
2. Maybe it's 100 bucks *at their price* for bricks.... (goes a looong way)
2. Here's a chance to design a set that has *great parts* in it-- think of it as
an exercise in bulk management and a community service:-)
Looks like the Neals have all of the age categories covered, so look out for a
1-2-3 sweep;^D
-John
>
>
> ++Lar
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In lugnet.general, John Neal writes:
> Looks like the Neals have all of the age categories covered, so look out for a
> 1-2-3 sweep;^D
<butts in>
No way! Even though I don't own *any* train sets, look out for the Raw
Material Shifter in the 13-17 category. I don't really think I need those
unimportant pieces like wheels or track.. I've found a way around them.
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In lugnet.general, John Neal writes:
>
>
> Larry Pieniazek wrote:
>
> > In lugnet.trains, Mike Walsh writes:
> > > I received the January Shop at Home catalog today. All of the new LoM sets
> > > are shown as are the Mosaic and the new Dragon figure.
> > >
> > > Probably the biggest news is the Train building contest. Three age groups:
> > > 7-12, 13-17, 18+ The winners will have their designs document and published
> > > by LEGO on lego.com plus receive $100 worth of LEGO product.
> >
> > Hmm... tempting.
> >
> > Na, 100 bucks isn't enough comp to lose the rights to one of my designs.
>
> You miss the point.
>
> 1. It's an honor which is worth more than money can buy.
I'm not yet convinced it's an honor to have TLC turn my design into
something weird and unrecognisable... their track record points to that.
> 2. Maybe it's 100 bucks *at their price* for bricks.... (goes a looong way)
Previous practice with prizes has been at MSRP.
> 2. Here's a chance to design a set that has *great parts* in it--
> think of it as an exercise in bulk management and a community service:-)
I think this is supposed to be point 3 rather than 2. I know you mac users
have trouble counting and stuff, but still. I haven't seen the catalog so I
can't say what the rules say but from what Mike said I don't see any
implication that the set is going to be released for purchase, just published.
So if I put neat and rare bricks in the design (fulfilling your suggestion
to do community service (perish the thought)) that by rights ought to win
(because it was submitted by me and therefore is superior to all the others)
either it won't win because the judges will choose some design with lots of
City Center pieces in it to justify their Jr. theories, or if it justly wins
despite containing good pieces, it will frustrate a lot of AFOLs who don't
have those pieces in their collections.
> Looks like the Neals have all of the age categories covered, so look out for a
> 1-2-3 sweep;^D
I may have to win this just to shut you up, though.
++Lar
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In lugnet.general, Larry Pieniazek writes:
>
> > 2. Maybe it's 100 bucks *at their price* for bricks.... (goes a looong way)
>
> Previous practice with prizes has been at MSRP.
I went to the employee's shop in Billund and the employees can buy sets for
the same price shops buy, I don't think they are going to sell sets cheaper. So
the money is not going to make it worth.
> > 2. Here's a chance to design a set that has *great parts* in it--
> > think of it as an exercise in bulk management and a community service:-)
>
> I think this is supposed to be point 3 rather than 2. I know you mac users
> have trouble counting and stuff, but still. I haven't seen the catalog so I
> can't say what the rules say but from what Mike said I don't see any
> implication that the set is going to be released for purchase, just published.
Maybe the entries can show TLC that we don't want juniorized sets, if
everyone submits nice sets we can send a message to TLC about what we'd like to
see in the future.
If they can change the train later, it means the designers will look at the
train. This could at least give them some inspiration when designing the next
sets.
Leonardo
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message
news:G6EDsy.3GH@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.general, John Neal writes:
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>
> > 2. Here's a chance to design a set that has *great parts* in it--
> > think of it as an exercise in bulk management and a community service:-)
>
> I think this is supposed to be point 3 rather than 2. I know you mac users
> have trouble counting and stuff, but still. I haven't seen the catalog so • I
> can't say what the rules say but from what Mike said I don't see any
> implication that the set is going to be released for purchase, just • published.
>
> So if I put neat and rare bricks in the design (fulfilling your suggestion
> to do community service (perish the thought)) that by rights ought to win
> (because it was submitted by me and therefore is superior to all the • others)
> either it won't win because the judges will choose some design with lots • of
> City Center pieces in it to justify their Jr. theories, or if it justly • wins
> despite containing good pieces, it will frustrate a lot of AFOLs who don't
> have those pieces in their collections.
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My guess is that the winning design(s) will not include rare parts. It
wouldn't make sense for LEGO to publish something that few people can
actually build. Looking into my crystal ball, I think the winning entries
will be constructed primarily from 4561 components and/or the bulk
components (3734-3737). In fact, there is a statement on the contest page:
"Need help getting started? Use pieces from your own collection, or use
LEGO Train bulk bags on page 44 or LEGO bulk bricks on pages 30-32!"
Mike - mike_walsh@mindspring.com
PS: There is a statement in the fine print that reads "Winners agree that
all copyrights for the winning designs in this Contest become the sole
property of LEGO(R), and winners, as well as the parents or legal guardians
if the winners are under the age of 18, agree to sign a copyright assignment
as a condition of being awarded the Grand Prize." Yuch!
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In lugnet.general, Mike Walsh writes:
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> PS: There is a statement in the fine print that reads "Winners agree that
> all copyrights for the winning designs in this Contest become the sole
> property of LEGO(R), and winners, as well as the parents or legal guardians
> if the winners are under the age of 18, agree to sign a copyright assignment
> as a condition of being awarded the Grand Prize." Yuch!
Interesting... So all non-winning entrants get to retain full rights
to their designs? That I didn't expect.
KDJ
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LUGNETer #203, Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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In lugnet.general, Mike Walsh writes:
> I received the January Shop at Home catalog today. All of the new LoM sets
> are shown as are the Mosaic and the new Dragon figure.
>
> Probably the biggest news is the Train building contest. Three age groups:
> 7-12, 13-17, 18+ The winners will have their designs document and published
> by LEGO on lego.com plus receive $100 worth of LEGO product.
Woo-HOO!! One hundred dollars-worth of minifig flippers fresh
from the North Atlantic! :]
KDJ
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LUGNETer #203, Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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In lugnet.general, Mike Walsh writes:
> I received the January Shop at Home catalog today. All of the new LoM sets
> are shown as are the Mosaic and the new Dragon figure.
>
> Probably the biggest news is the Train building contest. Three age groups:
> 7-12, 13-17, 18+ The winners will have their designs document and published
> by LEGO on lego.com plus receive $100 worth of LEGO product.
>
> Mike - mike_walsh@mindspring.com
Well everyone, I consider my designs to be simple enough for LEGO to gobble
up. But I too would like some recognition for my designs, if LEGO should
incorporate these 'ideas' into future Train sets. But I agree that 'It is
our responsibility, the Trainiacs, to inject some life back into the Trains
theme'. Should this be TLC's real intent, count me in. -Harvey
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In lugnet.general, Harvey Henkelman writes:
> In lugnet.general, Mike Walsh writes:
> > I received the January Shop at Home catalog today. All of the new LoM sets
> > are shown as are the Mosaic and the new Dragon figure.
> >
> > Probably the biggest news is the Train building contest. Three age groups:
> > 7-12, 13-17, 18+ The winners will have their designs document and published
> > by LEGO on lego.com plus receive $100 worth of LEGO product.
> >
> > Mike - mike_walsh@mindspring.com
>
> Well everyone, I consider my designs to be simple enough for LEGO to gobble
> up. But I too would like some recognition for my designs, if LEGO should
> incorporate these 'ideas' into future Train sets. But I agree that 'It is
> our responsibility, the Trainiacs, to inject some life back into the Trains
> theme'. Should this be TLC's real intent, count me in. -Harvey
Maybe some of us should focus on entering some more detailed, hi-end
projects. If anything it will give TLC a better idea about what the
advantages are of building larger, more adult, locomotives. Also, if were
to enter one of my locomotives, it would show TLC that better track
solutions need to be available. Better driver sizes and designs are needed....
stacy
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Mike Walsh wrote in message ...
The winners will have their designs document and published
> by LEGO on lego.com plus receive $100 worth of LEGO product.
Pretty skimpy prize value. I think Lego could have offered a larger prize.
Rose
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In lugnet.general, r2 wrote:
> Mike Walsh wrote in message ...
> The winners will have their designs document and published
> > by LEGO on lego.com plus receive $100 worth of LEGO product.
>
> Pretty skimpy prize value. I think Lego could have offered a larger prize.
It's the regular prize offered by TLC. "Any LEGO set (up to $100.00
value)", is the standard verbiage. I don't recall if that's the way this
one is written or not.
But I agree, they could definitely offer better prizes. Especially in the
18+ group.
Actually, I think an appropriate (and cool) prize would be for TLC to
produce a set based on the winning design, with (some portion of) the
profits going to a charitable organization. Again, this is especially in
the 18+ group.
Steve
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Can anyone scan that catalog and show it for us who can't get it soon?
Br
Zhengrong
Mike Walsh wrote:
> I received the January Shop at Home catalog today. All of the new LoM sets
> are shown as are the Mosaic and the new Dragon figure.
>
> Probably the biggest news is the Train building contest. Three age groups:
> 7-12, 13-17, 18+ The winners will have their designs document and published
> by LEGO on lego.com plus receive $100 worth of LEGO product.
>
> Mike - mike_walsh@mindspring.com
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