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    No way for a LEGO newbie to get up to speed? Unfair! —Mark Tarrabain
   You know, there doesn't really appear to be much in the way of LEGO for wannabe enthusiasts any more. (By the way, I'm thinking entirely on the Technic line here). It appears to me that every set these days seems to be geared towards developing a (...) (26 years ago, 19-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
   
        Re: No way for a LEGO newbie to get up to speed? Unfair! —Fredrik Glöckner
     (...) I haven't seen the new 1999 Technic sets yet, but I would say that the piece selection in the 1998 sets where very good. Personally, I would find enough pieces to build many interesting things using a few 1998 Technic sets. (...) But there is (...) (26 years ago, 19-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: No way for a LEGO newbie to get up to speed? Unfair! —Mark Tarrabain
      (...) Okay. You are definitely right on this one. However, the RIS is about $200 US for 700 some odd pieces. Clearly a great deal of the expense is going towards the electronic components which are not, strictly speaking, necessary for a universal (...) (26 years ago, 19-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
   
        Re: No way for a LEGO newbie to get up to speed? Unfair! —Jesse Long
     Mark Tarrabain wrote in message <36A4501C.248EF8CE@l....bc.ca>... (...) Little. It's the same process that's happening to the entire line. As I mention in another post, Lego is becoming an action toy that requires assembly, not a building toy that (...) (26 years ago, 19-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: No way for a LEGO newbie to get up to speed? Unfair! —Mark de Kock
     Jesse Long writes: <<<snif>>> (...) <<<snipped again>>> Is this why TLG is loosing money? Because people like us don't buy as many sets as we used to? Perhaps TLG will get the message... Mark "Town Jr.; Tim got a job in the developersteam of TLG" (26 years ago, 19-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
   
        Re: No way for a LEGO newbie to get up to speed? Unfair! —Alex Wetmore
     Mark Tarrabain wrote in message <36A4501C.248EF8CE@l....bc.ca>... (...) The Mindstorms set is basically a Universal set with a microcontroller and two motors. Even if you don't want the computer the set is a very good deal just for the pieces and (...) (26 years ago, 19-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: No way for a LEGO newbie to get up to speed? Unfair! —Mark Tarrabain
      (...) How about 8020, 8022, 8054, 8064, 8094, and 8485? (especially 8485!) All of which are now discontinued. Which is my point. (...) (26 years ago, 19-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: No way for a LEGO newbie to get up to speed? Unfair! —Alex Wetmore
     Mark Tarrabain wrote in message <36A4B9E1.9FAFDE89@l....bc.ca>... (...) of (...) 9719 seems to replace 8485 to me (8485 also includes a bunch of "unnecessary" electronics). It cost the same amount as Mindstorms does as well. I don't understand what (...) (26 years ago, 19-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: No way for a LEGO newbie to get up to speed? Unfair! —Mark Tarrabain
      (...) Mindstorms has something like 720 pieces or so. 8485 had over a thousand. At any rate, I don't think any single set, universal or not, is really going to be enough for a die-hard enthusiast. A combination of 3 or 4 different universal sets, (...) (26 years ago, 19-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: No way for a LEGO newbie to get up to speed? Unfair! —Alex Wetmore
     Mark Tarrabain wrote in message <36A4D43D.EA1EFA19@l....bc.ca>... (...) At (...) to be (...) universal (...) be. (...) of (...) Has there been a time when there have been multiple universal sets out at once? From my memory (which is missing much of (...) (26 years ago, 19-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: No way for a LEGO newbie to get up to speed? Unfair! —Mark Tarrabain
      (...) Actually, in '96 there was at least the Briefcase set, a Universal fiber optic set, and the Technic Control Center II. There may have been more, but these are the universal sets in the Technic line that I know of. (...) You may be right on (...) (26 years ago, 19-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: No way for a LEGO newbie to get up to speed? Unfair! —Jasper Janssen
     On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:47:44 GMT, Mark Tarrabain <markt@lynx.bc.ca> wrote: How about the Technic XXL set? That has lots of, especially long beams, and also some other useful stuff. I think I'm gonna buy me another one :) Jasper (26 years ago, 20-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: No way for a LEGO newbie to get up to speed? Unfair! —Mark Tarrabain
     (...) XXL set? (...) (26 years ago, 21-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: No way for a LEGO newbie to get up to speed? Unfair! —Fredrik Glöckner
     (...) The 8277. It's discontinued this year, or so it seems. (URL) (26 years ago, 21-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: No way for a LEGO newbie to get up to speed? Unfair! —Jasper Janssen
     (...) Hmm. too bad. the half-price SAH should have been a clue to me :) Anyway, I bought 2 in the last couple days - 20 16x beams, like 7 or 8 #12 axles,veritable holey-bag-loads of small parts, including a handful of friction pegs, and plenty of (...) (26 years ago, 22-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
   
        Re: No way for a LEGO newbie to get up to speed? Unfair! —Greg Crisp
   I have been thinking about a similar concept recently. What about..... <drum roll> Technic Buckets? I would have loved to have had a couple of silver technic beams... Greg (...) (26 years ago, 20-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
   
        Re: No way for a LEGO newbie to get up to speed? Unfair! —Mark Tarrabain
    (...) But would LEGO actually do it? (...) (26 years ago, 20-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
   
        Re: No way for a LEGO newbie to get up to speed? Unfair! —Greg Crisp
   Probably not, but wouldn't it be cool if they did? (...) (26 years ago, 21-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
   
        Re: No way for a LEGO newbie to get up to speed? Unfair! —Larry Pieniazek
     from lugnet.general (...) Well... some of us do, anyway. :-) We celebrate the winter solstice instead, and we use all artificial trees. (26 years ago, 22-Jan-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: No way for a LEGO newbie to get up to speed? Unfair! —Jasper Janssen
     (...) Ewww! Artificial trees? Whaddaya wanna bet that's the same kind of people that use _electric_ ccandles in their tree? :-/ Jasper, who's always celebrated Winter soltice with _real_ candles in the tree... (26 years ago, 22-Jan-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: No way for a LEGO newbie to get up to speed? Unfair! —Steve Bliss
     (...) If you let the tree dry out really well first, you don't need very many candles... Steve (26 years ago, 22-Jan-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: No way for a LEGO newbie to get up to speed? Unfair! —Jasper Janssen
     (...) Firephobe! :) Jasper (26 years ago, 22-Jan-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: No way for a LEGO newbie to get up to speed? Unfair! —Steve Bliss
   (...) It sort of makes sense. The custom of Christmas trees has pagan origins. So by killing the tree, you are symbolically striking down the elements of paganism. (26 years ago, 22-Jan-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 

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