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Re: Appreciating what TLG and Lego Direct have done for AFOL's
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Wed, 24 Nov 2004 21:33:18 GMT
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In lugnet.color, David Eaton wrote:
> In lugnet.color, Gerhard R. Istok wrote:
> > In lugnet.color, David Eaton wrote:
> > > Gray - 1961? -> 2003 (CA/ABS switch in 1963)
> > > Brown - 1974? -> 2003 (ABS in 1977?, 1974 in different, flexible plastic)
> > > Dk Gray - 1977? -> 2003
> > >
> > > So, at least 41 years for Gray ABS, and 27 years of Brown and Dark Gray (31
> > > years for brown if you count the different plastic for the maxifig hair).
> > >
> > > Huh, it looks from Peeron like Gray was the 7th color ever produced, after
> > > white, red, green, yellow, blue, and black?
> >
> > Gray actually goes back to the 1950's. I have a 10x20 thick baseplate in
> > gray without "Lego" on the studs (pre 1957). The 10x20 baseplates first came
> > out in 1953, but I cannot confirm that they started in gray that year.
>
> Huh! Earliest I found on peeron was 1961, but that's pretty cool that it was out
> even before...
>
> > The
> > next appearance of gray came with the advent of the Architectural Sets
> > (1963-65), when gray plates came out in 1x1, 1x2, 2x2, 2x3, 2x4 and the
> > strange 8x11 plate that was the top (actually bottom) of the plastic boxes
> > that held these pieces. The earliest of these were CA, then switched to ABS.
> > Then in 1966 the #325 Shell Station came out with more different size of
> > large plates. But regular bricks didn't come out until after 1978. One of
> > the first was the 1x1 round bricks, found in the USS Constellation of 1978.
>
> I know grey *bricks* were certainly rare trinkets until about 1984 when the
> castle line started using them. Before then I seem to remember there was a bevy
> of grey plate, but very little in the way of brick.
>
> > This would make gray even older than black, which never came out in a 10x20
> > baseplate. Black first showed up in late 1961/early 1962 in most of the
> > sizes that red, white, blue and yellow came in (except the 2x8, 2x10 and 4x4
> > corner brick sizes).
>
> Wow, that's pretty cool! So, is 1961/62 the correct year for the little
> accessory kits that are in the Lugnet DB? (that's where I got my guess from, but
> admittedly it says 1957+, which I think means "1957 or later")
>
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/218_4
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/219_6
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/220_6
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> Actually, from the looks of things, it looks like blue also underwent a similar
> color change in 1958? I guess it could be due to fading, but in various pictures
> in the ULB, World of Lego Toys, and 50 Years of Play, it looks that
> Automatic-Binding-Brick-Blue was more of a light pastel blue than the darker
> blue that seems to show up everywhere after 1958. If so, I guess technically
> some might say that grey would be older than both black or blue!
>
> > Red, white, blue, yellow and green actually go back to 1949 with the
> > Automatic Binding Bricks. They even made the old style windows (for slotted
> > bricks) in all these colors. There was a gray-blue color and a purple color
> > back then as well. I'll have to check the Peeron color dates.
>
> Huh-- maybe it was that gray-blue I was seeing in the books-- interesting that
> they would even have a purple... I wonder how many years purple was a dormant
> color before re-appearing...
>
> DaveE
Dave,
Jan K. of Germany went on a tour of the vault in Billund. Here is her
Brickshelf set of pictures from that visit. Check out the 2nd and 3rd picture
(1825 and 1826). This is a 1953-56 Lego set, probably a #700/2 or #700/3. Note
on the inside box picture you can see blue and yellow windows (these are the
earliest Lego window variety). On the outside box picture you can see the
purple (in the baseplates) that I was talking about. Also, the picture shows a
few blue-gray pieces and windows, and also (I forgot all about this) tan colored
pieces. And there may even be some brown pieces (one of the building roofs).
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=97505
And one last thing, I have to get some more info on those baseplates. They are
not the 10x20 thick baseplates which came into production in 1953, but something
earlier. Stay tuned.
Gary Istok
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