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(...) no replies so far :-( we will than call for the ratification, though we would really appreciate some comments from people with legal knowledge, better experience in copyright matters before going to vote. w. (17 years ago, 16-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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First, let me disclaim that this is not legal advice. It is merely my understanding of the CA License. I do have some legal knowledge of copyrights, but for any legal advice please contact and retain an attorney. Second, I don't know whether this is (...) (17 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Hi Zach, (...) Actually it is misspelt throughout the Licence but I can't be bothered to go through it. Insofar as LDraw has an official language it is Australian English. (...) Good point. Perhaps an additional comment like: In order to avoid the (...) (17 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Maybe It's a stupid question but here goes ... Does this mean when you put a rendering (or rendered animation) on the Internet you must scribble 100+ names on the png / frames / end credits. If so I think that's very restricting, a simple (...) (17 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Maybe it's just me, but if renderings are considered derivative works, we need to seriously step back and think long and hard about whether or not we are OK with that. I personally think that forcing renderings to have text on them (...) (17 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I agree, clarification on rendered images is needed. If a rendering using LDraw parts is a derivative work, and derivative works are required to visibly display credit, that's a problem. It won't show up on my renders; I don't burn "Credit: (...) (17 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) As one of the CA's authors, my view on this is that you should state somewhere in your distribution of the image (i.e. on the web page hosting it, as a text file in a .zip, on the image itself, etc...) that the content were derived from the (...) (17 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) In publishing, that type of info is usually contained in a colophon, the use of which is sadly fading from popularity. Some few web sites include this level of detail in their "About" section. I agree it would be nice to see attribution in (...) (17 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) There is one significant difference between LDraw and Photoshop in that you pay for the right to use Photoshop without giving credit. That said I don't think we need to vandalise our images to put the credit in but I'm not completely averse to (...) (17 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) All of the parts authors would have to agree to that, because (and my knowledge is limited so if I mistake any assumptions let me know) the copyright of the part file seems to be held by the parts author not the LDraw Parts Library or any (...) (17 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) While rendered images are Derivative Works, I do not think you would have to add anything such as a copyright notice to them. The language of the CALicense.txt paragraph 4.2 says to the extent reasonably practicable or at a minimum where you (...) (17 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) This is crazy talk. People sign paintings, but nobody is ever gonna staple a note on the back of a painting that says, "This painting was created with ACME brand paints and brushes." Please don't insert any such crazy demand in the ldraw (...) (17 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I wonder whether a model file really qualifies as a "collective work" under this definition since an LDR file doesn't actually contain the parts definitions, only references to them. (Unless of course, the external parts definitions are (...) (17 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) guys, before speculation grow wild I'll take the whole thing back to the steerco. thx for any input - though I have to admit that some posts go further than my wildest dreams ever did. as far as I understand the license both license files have (...) (17 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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