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(As of 10:50pm, Thursday, 18 April...) Section Totals 183 certified files. 59 files need admin review. 221 files need more votes. 209 have uncertified subfiles. 92 held files. (Total: 764 files.) Almost *two* *hundred* certified files!!! 8-D (...) (22 years ago, 19-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Duplo Studs (was: [Parts Tracker] Wrapping up 2002-02)
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(...) Update: all four of them are waiting for Admin now. Thank you Carsten! -- Tony Hafner www.hafhead.com (22 years ago, 19-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Motorcycle rider shortcut
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In this part: (URL) Easter refers at one point to BFCing the file. But there's no BFC stuff in there. It appears that the only change here is the title. Is it possible that Paul added it but then the name fix submission lacked that update? -- Tony (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: [Parts Tracker] Wrapping up 2002-02
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(...) If we want to bulk up the release and clear out a bit more from the tracker, it might be nice to get the Duplo stud primitives certified. Just getting those 4 files certified would get those plus 15 more files into the next release. When the (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: [Parts Tracker] Wrapping up 2002-02
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Since "973ps4" (the Han Solo w/ vest torso) is one of the files that is certified and awaiting release, I need to ask: Weren't we going to switch this file's pattern number with "973ps5" (the Darth Vader torso)?... (Ref: "(URL) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | [Parts Tracker] Wrapping up 2002-02
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All the Horse files, and most of the primitives updated with BFC'ness, are now certified! The one primitive not yet certified is p\48\1-4ndis.dat, but it is not the sole hold-up for any files. Over the next few days, I'll be working on getting the (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: church site needs a new host
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(...) Thanks. I'll fix the link tonight. Steve (22 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.publish, lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: church site needs a new host
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(...) Never existed. But that has been handled now. Jacob (22 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.publish, lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: church site needs a new host
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(...) Can I get a :p in too? That page references this link (URL) appears to be kaput... PS: thanks for the BFC info, that's why I followed the link, to freshen my copy of LDAO so I can get the yinyang for my own self. My copy is too old to have it. (22 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: When is the next parts release?
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(...) Heh. Well, the biggest we've done with the Parts Tracker. I think the 2000-02 update was the largest ever, with 258 files. BTW, I'm showing 62 files need admin review currently. Including 13 fixes, which we can 99% count as going to certified! (...) (22 years ago, 15-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Numbers Report
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(...) Actually, I'm thinking of the reverse situation - the subfile is certified, but the parent file is not certified. In this case, it would be sloppy to release the subfile before the part file is released. Look at the horse files for an example (...) (22 years ago, 15-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | numbers report
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I wish the stock market had this rate of growth... :-/ Section Totals 141 certified files. 57 files need admin review. 224 files need more votes. 243 have uncertified subfiles. 94 held files. (Total: 759 files.) (For comparison): (URL) (22 years ago, 14-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Numbers Report
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(...) Steve, If I recall correctly, this is not a problem, because the Tracker says that a file has "[x] subfile(s) isn't/aren't certified" if it has *any* subfiles (including primitives) that are *not* fully, totally, 100% certified... Thanks, (...) (22 years ago, 14-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | When is the next parts release?
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Even without Steve going over the 30+ parts ready for him to certify, this looks to be the biggest release ever in terms of total file count. If all the redone primitives get certified, that will at least another 15 files that were already certified (...) (22 years ago, 12-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Implicit face winding (was: [Parts Tracker] More BFC Primitives)
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(...) My bad- I guess I wasn't following the thread closely enough. (...) If I understand correctly, that doesn't really work for a huge percentage of parts. Parts will often have two surfaces in a row that both face away. Look at the breakdown of a (...) (22 years ago, 12-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Implicit face winding (was: [Parts Tracker] More BFC Primitives)
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Tony Hafner wrote: > In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Kyle McDonald writes: >> >>Well I don't know that I thought it would be 'minimal' effort. I'll >>bet it would be a lot of work for parts that are already done. I >>did think that it wouldn't be that (...) (22 years ago, 12-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Implicit face winding (was: [Parts Tracker] More BFC Primitives)
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(...) I recently went over some old primitives and brought them up to BFC certification. I found it very handy to have the flexibility of doing it whichever way had more "correct" surfaces. It wouldn't be so bad if Notepad had the ability to reverse (...) (22 years ago, 12-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: [Parts Tracker] More BFC Primitives
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Hi Travis, (...) Well I don't know that I thought it would be 'minimal' effort. I'll bet it would be a lot of work for parts that are already done. I did think that it wouldn't be that bad for new parts, because I figured the author knows best what (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: [Parts Tracker] More BFC Primitives
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(...) Despite being the author of a rendering program, I agree with this whole-heartedly. Each rendering program only has to get it right once, during the initial coding. If we make it easier for the program, but harder for part authors, the part (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Parts as volumes (instead of surfaces)
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(...) "marking up" would be better done by machine algorithm, and would encompass the Connection Point proposal at the same time. It would indeed yield a separate definition of the parts. A lot of high-end CAD programs read polygons (like we have) (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Parts as volumes (instead of surfaces)
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(...) Maybe I'm missing a technical distinction, but it seems he used bounding boxes *for* collision detection, as opposed to using exact volumes. (...) True. My point was, marking up the LDraw part files for volume decomposition would either: a) Be (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Parts as volumes (instead of surfaces)
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(...) Well, I can have a twisted mind sometimes. I know these moments when the best idea today, will just be plain stupid tomorrow. Thanks to Eric Olson for more precision: he used bounding boxes, not collisions. Also I still think, whereas higher (...) (22 years ago, 10-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Parts as volumes (instead of surfaces)
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(...) That was only bounding boxes (minus the studs). The piece in question was matched against all other pieces, any pieces in a line above or below were put into a list. In case one of them intersected the piece in question, a new place would be (...) (22 years ago, 10-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Parts as volumes (instead of surfaces)
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(...) So stud4 would be decomposed into 16 trapezoidal prisms? That sounds like a fair amount of mark up. (...) Nod, true. But I'd rather decompose a 1x1 brick into 6 volumes (4 walls, 1 top and the stud) than 46 (one volume for each surface (...) (22 years ago, 10-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Parts as volumes (instead of surfaces)
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(...) I like the idea of CSG. Unfortunately I can not invest time in Rayshade and alternate ray-tracers. I know they can have attractive features but I am more a POV user. I must impose some limit to my (already too high) diversification. Of course, (...) (22 years ago, 9-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Parts as volumes (instead of surfaces)
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(...) Stud4 primitive could be convex-decomposed just as Ring4 primitive is today. More generally, just as any LDraw surface is convex-decomposed with just triangles and quads (3,4 points respectively), I guess any LDraw volume can be (...) (22 years ago, 9-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: [Parts Tracker] More BFC Primitives
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(...) Sorry, I must have been reading more into your example than you intended. (...) It's the former: the author intends to make a reflected object, but not an inverted object. (...) It depends on who (or what) you want to keep things simple *for*. (...) (22 years ago, 9-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Parts as volumes (instead of surfaces)
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If you're interested, take a look at my old Rayshade libraries that made the bricks from scratch using CSG. I'm especially fond of the L3G0 40-tooth technic gear. I've thought it would be nice to have "bounding boxes" for the bricks, for collision (...) (22 years ago, 9-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: [Parts Tracker] More BFC Primitives
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Maybe I'm more confused now, or less who knows. But I don't think I made what I was trying to say clear in that last post. So here I am replying to myself... :) (...) That last sentance doesn't really get across what I was trying to say I think. (...) (22 years ago, 9-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: [Parts Tracker] More BFC Primitives
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Steve Bliss wrote: > In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Kyle McDonald wrote: > [snip more] > > You understand the usage correctly. Except there's no special tie > between a 'mirroring' subfile reference and the INVERTNEXT command. > Authors won't (...) (22 years ago, 9-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Parts as volumes (instead of surfaces)
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(...) Wow, good questions. We know that some collision detection is already practical - Eric Olsen demonstrated that over a year ago. But decomposing LDraw parts into convex objects, that would be a trick. Each external box 5 (or pair of box 5's) (...) (22 years ago, 8-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: request for modification (Tracker)
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(...) Wow. Good ideas. Unfortunately, for now, I'll have to file them in with all the other improvements I want to make on PT. There are a few key changes that need to occur before many other things can happen. Steve (22 years ago, 8-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: [Parts Tracker] More BFC Primitives
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(...) That's weird - I know I answered your email. No big deal. (...) files already having been done by you and Damien), you're going to work on the rest of the boxes. Anyone else want to help? (...) You *can't* post new versions of official files. (...) (22 years ago, 8-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: [Parts Tracker] More BFC Primitives
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(...) [snip] OK, sounds reasonable to me. (...) Yes. (...) [snip more] You understand the usage correctly. Except there's no special tie between a 'mirroring' subfile reference and the INVERTNEXT command. Authors won't explicitly use one to 'undo' (...) (22 years ago, 8-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Numbers Report
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Damien Guichard wrote: [snipped a lot of great comments about using different pages on the PT] I totally agree with everything Damien wrote, except that if one only pays attention to the Activity page, older files may (...) (22 years ago, 8-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Numbers Report
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(...) I think Bernd and Sascha are brothers. Part authors keep LDraw alive. Steve B. has a quite expeditive (if not bureaucratic) response to your legitimate expectings. My advise is: visit the "activity" PT page rather than the "certication" or (...) (22 years ago, 7-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Parts as volumes (instead of surfaces)
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[ XFUT lugnet.cad.dev ] (...) What's "CSG descriptions"? (...) But they aren't (as you also write). Still, you are probably correct that BFC information in the LDraw parts can be used for collision detection. (...) I think it deserves further (...) (22 years ago, 7-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Parts as volumes (instead of surfaces)
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It has been said that, with ldraw parts, we have the geometry of TLG bricks. This is rather optimistic. Because geometry would be CSG descriptions that allow much more (although slower) than quads and triangles. CSG descriptions allow part collision (...) (23 years ago, 6-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: [Parts Tracker] More BFC Primitives
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Hello, Comments below... Travis Cobbs wrote: > In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Steve Bliss writes: > >>In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Tony Hafner writes: >> >>>In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Steve Bliss writes: >>> >>>>>Um... Not to stir the pot or (...) (23 years ago, 6-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: [Parts Tracker] More BFC Primitives
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(...) Given the fact that they have to check whether or not a given file has been mirrored, I can't see that the directionality would make a large difference. If everything used CCW, then only mirrored ones would need to be reordered (assuming the (...) (23 years ago, 6-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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