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One other thing. Environment variables work too, but only serious Unixy Mac OS X people actually modify them--that is, some developers, but no one else. Normal users would even know what they are. Heck, even I don't modify mine. For my l3p and (...) (21 years ago, 1-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) /etc would work, except it would require admin permission to install, which is something the Mac OS X community doesn't like for an installer/app that isn't a system modifying type of installer/app. Saving stuff in /etc/ will also not survive (...) (21 years ago, 1-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Oops, I forgot to add this. These sort of restrictions mean a user may be forced to put extra search directories in their home directory. Rather than recognize $HOME or %USERPROFILE% in an absolute path, it might be nice to add a <HOME> (...) (21 years ago, 1-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.mac)
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(...) I'm only willing to abandon environment variables if you're willing to go the distance and really try to work out a standard that we all can use. I, like Lars, was quite disappointed when you got impatient and cut short the previous discussion (...) (21 years ago, 1-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.mac)
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| | Parts Tracker outages in preparation for release of 2004-01
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Please expect some availability outages on the Parts Tracker today (and maybe for the next few days), as I work on the next parts update. If all goes well the 2004-01 update will be ready in the next few days. Chris Dee (LDraw Parts Admin) (21 years ago, 29-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I agree (although I did point something out in a response to Orion's response). Unix (and Unix-like) environments do often use the environment to control things, but they also use dot files. And while it wouldn't make sense to have an (...) (21 years ago, 28-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Well, the ldraw directory itself can be specified in ldraw.ini. And while I agree that filling up the Windows directory is generally a bad thing, you can't have the file be in the LDraw directory if it is the file that specifies where to find (...) (21 years ago, 28-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I agree. I like the ini file solution over the environmet varible (...) I agree that putting the ldraw.ini the LDRAW dir would make much more sense (why it wasn't in the first place is puzzling) but the problem is that the programs the use it (...) (21 years ago, 28-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I just start a new sub-thread to discuss two very important points where I thought over two nights now: The location of the ini file and environment variables! I would not recommend to go with both solutions, because its source for possible errors (...) (21 years ago, 28-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I think you are being a bit unreasonable. The discussion is about a fundamental functionality of LDraw, which has impact on all programs. Agreement is important to ease the life of the end user: *one* place for setup. We try to accomodate (...) (21 years ago, 27-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | LDraw Design Pad (LDDP) 1.54 Released
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LDDesignPad (LDDP) is a tool for editing and handling LDraw files in a very comfortable way. Download it here: (URL) are: -Fully customizable editor with syntax highlighting -Open multiple files at the same time -Unlimited Undo/Redo -Use/define (...) (21 years ago, 27-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.announce)
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Sorry to be a bit harsh now but whats going on here now is exactly what I ment with overkill in discussions. We discuss about a quite simple small usefull feature - but we also discuss how we can make things complicated and beeing a long process (...) (21 years ago, 26-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Exactly, and you don't look for a part named "\3006.DAT" in the PARTS directory? When you combine the full path to the PARTS directory with the part filename you have to add the "\" yourself, right? So I know you can do it... (...) Ah, but (...) (21 years ago, 26-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) OK. (...) But you don't declare LDRAWDIR as C:\LDraw\, i.e. with a trailing backslash. We also use %WINDIR%\ldraw.ini and not %WINDIR%ldraw.ini. I think most variable substitution in any (script) language uses explicit delimiters in stead of (...) (21 years ago, 26-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I also considered suggesting [LDrawSearch] but I held back and went with the "me too". I do like [LDrawSearch] better though. (...) Sure, but use lowercase ldraw.ini please! I'm too lazy to remember to use the shift key on a case sensitive (...) (21 years ago, 26-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Me too. I think it is a good idea with a separate section for the search directories, it allows shorter keys than suggested in (URL) I suggest section name [LDrawSearch] which is more in line with [LDraw]. (...) Yes, first (...) (21 years ago, 25-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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"Don Heyse" <dheyse@hotmail.spam....away.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:HtnCyv.188q@lugnet.com... <SNIP> (...) I will not use the variable, files should be readable on any platform ;-) What about quotation marks in the lines? I suggest to NOT (...) (21 years ago, 25-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | trackdraw, sourceforge
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TrackDraw is now in the alpha stage, which means it is feature complete, though with many bugs. Thanks to everyone who helped with the design phase. I'm working on the transition from the Yahoo group (URL) to the sourceforge project (URL) . Here's a (...) (21 years ago, 25-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - additional search paths
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(...) It works for me too. So we should check the user's home directory for an ldraw.ini file containing an [LDRAW_SEARCH] section, then if not found look in the ldraw.ini file in Windows directory. For myself, because of platform portability (...) (21 years ago, 25-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: New LDraw Animation: Rotation Animation
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(...) I've really fixed the problem this ime and possibly found a bug in the "Print this story" feature of PostNuke. -Orion (21 years ago, 25-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Well.... Maybe not. -Orion (21 years ago, 25-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I fixed the problem. -Orion (21 years ago, 25-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I wanted to print this, so I clicked on LDraw'org's "print" icon, and got this... :( Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /usr/www/users/peero...serapi.php on line 580 Thanks, Franklin (21 years ago, 25-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) It looks good to me. --Travis Cobbs (21 years ago, 24-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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"Steve Bliss" <steve.bliss@earthlink.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:mna930t5n6agvkl...4ax.com... (...) etc. (...) Good idea, so how about [LDRAW_SEARCH] 1=SHOW <MODELDIR> 2=HIDE <LDRAWDIR>P 3=SHOW <LDRAWDIR>Parts 4=SHOW <LDRAWDIR>Models . . . (...) (21 years ago, 24-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Guide to LDraw "Star Wars Lego" building/modeling?
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(...) Yes, most of the patterned part for the Star Wars line haven't been made yet but that because pattern parts are relatively difficult to model. As far as the other part, which one are you referring too? (21 years ago, 23-Feb-04, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Ryan's overhauled site
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(...) Whoa, good timing! Just a few hours ago I was poking around your site to see your LDraw-compatible K'Nex and Lincoln Log stuff, and I noticed the slick new design. Very sharp! One comment, though. The K'Nex and Lincoln Log links from this (...) (21 years ago, 20-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.publish, lugnet.general)
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| | Ryan's overhauled site
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I'm happy to announce after half a year in the making, my entirely re-designed web site has been launched! Visit (URL) to see it. With its new look, Virtual Construction has a better face for the world, and you can even see a separate experimental (...) (21 years ago, 20-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.publish, lugnet.general)
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| | Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - additional search paths
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(...) [snip] (...) This could be addressed by prepending each value/line with 1=, 2=, 3=, etc. Steve (21 years ago, 19-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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"Don Heyse" <dheyse@hotmail.spam....away.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:HtAD4n.BCJ@lugnet.com... <SNIP> (...) <SNIP> (...) FILE:// style is fully machine dependend as well, so there is no need to put file in front, but I'm open to additionaly (...) (21 years ago, 18-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) ME and the NT variants store the environment in the registry so this would only make things worse for 95 and 98. That said, I'd still prefer to keep things short for the environment version of this. One variable, with as many shortcuts as (...) (21 years ago, 18-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) In DOS/Windows the problem with environment space is (I believe) more a problem of limited total environment space. I don't think there's additional limitations on individual variables. So using multiple environment variables might conceivably (...) (21 years ago, 18-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Right. In case the variable gets too long we can resort to multiple variables: [LDraw] BaseDirectory=C:\LDraw LgeoDirectory=C:\L2P LdrawSearch01=<HIDE>...MyPrims\In Work LdrawSearch02=C:\LDr...MyParts\In Work LdrawSearch03=<MODELDIR> (...) (21 years ago, 17-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Something similar (but probably not identical to) the above would have my vote (I'll explain below). I would clarify that if ldraw.ini can't be found in the user's home directory (aka the user profile directory), then the Windows directory (...) (21 years ago, 17-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Hi Don, "Don Heyse" <dheyse@hotmail.spam....away.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:Ht8vwM.ps2@lugnet.com... (...) <SNIP> > (...) Have you ever tried to pull out a variable under MS-Windows with a length of 500 characters? Or what would happen if the (...) (21 years ago, 17-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yes, as Lars said earlier: (...) [LDraw] BaseDirectory=C:\LDraw LgeoDirectory=C:\L2P LdrawSearch="<HIDE>C...MyPrims\In Work| C:\LDrawXtra\MyParts\In Work| <MODELDIR>|<HIDE><LD...BFC\PARTS| <HIDE><P>|<PARTS>|<M...arts\Done" I like the single (...) (21 years ago, 17-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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"Don Heyse" <dheyse@hotmail.spam....away.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:Ht6s7G.1792@lugnet.com... (...) major (...) ini (...) user (...) There is another disadvantage of this methode. Environment variables are very system dependend and usualy are (...) (21 years ago, 17-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) A bit wordy, but not bad. How about a few more predefined tags for the standard directories to save environment space? Like using <P> instead of <LDRAWDIR>\P, <PARTS> instead of <LDRAWDIR>\parts, and <MODELS> instead of <LDDRAWDIR>\models? (...) (21 years ago, 16-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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"Don Heyse" <dheyse@hotmail.spam....away.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:Ht1H5p.1G0v@lugnet.com... <SNIP> (...) ;-)))))) (21 years ago, 14-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Very true. Perhaps you should arrange for someone to email you whenever we actually agree on something here. Since that seems to be a rare occurance, it shouldn't be much of a burden on your inbox. ;^) Hmm, that'd be a nice addition to lugnet, (...) (21 years ago, 13-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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