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[X-posted to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.technic, follow-up set to lugnet.cad.dev] While building the way-cool #8448 SSS Super Car Mk II, I compiled a list of parts which have not been modeled in LDraw yet. I've included it below. I had two reactions to (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.technic)
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Urgh. Just hit some key which seemed to reset the body of this reply to the default text. Blech. In lugnet.cad.dev, Jonathan Wilson writes: [before that, Steve wrote:] (...) It's a piece which fits between the driving ring and the freespinning 16(?) (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I don't understand what you mean by "Znap Axle". Du you mean the rubber like flexible axle-shaped "hoses" with 8 LDU diameter connector pins at each end? Are these really Znap originated? (Of course, living in Norway, I don't know the Znap (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) The small shock absorber in 8448 is different from the one we already have in LDraw, as the spring has fewer coil windings. Fredrik (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Which piece is this? (...) Is this similar to the other gear rack with holes pieces? (...) Is this the shock that has been "on hold" for about 6 months? (...) I take it this is the one that keeps breaking (...) What are these? Some missing (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Is this the same as the one in the 8880? If so then I have a mock-up of it if anyone wants it. It uses a technic engine piston to simulate the towball socket and liftarms for the sides. (...) Thanks for the info (...) -- Jonathan Wilson (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I believe that it is the large shock absorber that is in progress. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yup. I double-checked the two parts. Fredrick is correct, the new spring has fewer windings. And it is stiffer than the old spring. Other than the new spring, the pieces of the parts seem to be identical. Steve (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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[FUT lugnet.cad.dev] Can anyone confirm or deny that the flexible axles in the 8448 Supercar were first released in Znap sets? Thanks! Steve (...) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.technic, lugnet.znap)
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(...) Acording to technica they were. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Can you revisit Technica and say that again? He removed this information from the page. Fredrik (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Which page of the 8448 instructiosn are the parts you are talking about on? Scott A Steve Bliss wrote in message ... (...) were (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: 8448 Flexible Axles (was Re: Parts from 8448 not LDrawn)
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(...) There were flexible axles in the Znap (motorized) sets. But they are much different than the ones in the 8448. The ones in Znap are "drive" axles, they allow the motor to be in one orientation and the item(s) driven to be in another. It uses a (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.znap, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | Re: ZNAP (was:8448 Flexible Axles (was Re: Parts from 8448 not LDrawn))
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(...) them (...) on (...) Yes, please, LEGO! Just hire some cargo planes and clear the shops in Europe. I get sick of this stuff each time I visit my local shop. Listen, LEGO: we won't take it off the shelves, even not if offered for free! I always (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) Disagree. I like it and it has a lot of potential for large structures. I'd DEFINITELY take it for free... I am buying a bunch from Busy Bee. I just wish there were more colors per piece, instead of the pieces being essentially color coded.. I (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)
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I don't find much of ZNAP very useful (though I might buy a 3571 just to build a bridge), but I DO wish they had a ZNAP drive axle accessory pack! I currently have no designs planned that would need them, but I'd like to HAVE them in my inventory (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) Were *what*? Steve (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) The first use is on page 153 (book 2). They're used to make the curves in the body-lines. Steve (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Ah! Thank you, Wayne. (...) From the rumblings in lugnet.loc.uk, it doesn't seem likely -- people only appreciate Znap when it's on clearance. :-/ Steve (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.znap, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) Found it! (URL) They were *not* introduced in Znap. But the odd length axle with the stop-collar *was* introduced in Znap. (URL) So, should these parts be included in Technic, or should a new category for Znap be started? Steve (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) color (...) Nice bridge, Larry. I've done a "Bascule" type train bridge with a lift span of about 40 inches that wouldn't have been possible without Znap. I got a lot of positive comments about the purple 4-points as part of the "flavor" of (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) Hereby I withdraw every single word I wrote before in this thread - exculpation! However, I did and still do not like the actual sets. However, I did not think of an alternative usage of those parts and the never-ending possibilities of (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) color (...) I like that bridge! Do the ZNAP parts connect directly to lego parts? I have not seen ZNAP and would like more info.... -Rich (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) Juth put them into technic. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Uh, a little clarification here. I don't think that black bridge is Lar's.... -John (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) I'd say include them in Technic. The odd stop collar axles were originally introced to accompany the flexible motorizeable axles in Znap (I think), but they still look like Technic for most LDraw users. Adding them to a Znap category would (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) They connect to Technic sidewise with clips. They have no studs. If you think of a beam without studs or stud holes (smooth on top and bottom), with clip/technic holes along the sides (but only on every other center - a 6 stud long Technic (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) Whoops! That was the work of Matt Bates. I sincerely apologise if anyone thought I was trying to take credit for it as my own. (...) A toy store in Manchester UK. You're new around here, aren't you? :-) There was a huge flap last year when I (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) Sorry, didn't read the page - just glanced at the picture. Matt - Nice bridge. (...) New to the web, yes - always looking for new sources for pieces. Can't get enough. My current Znap "Connection" is in The Netherlands. Wayne (25 years ago, 14-Feb-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)
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