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Re: New Part - 30187 Minifig Motorcycle with 3 Wheels Body
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Sat, 16 Dec 2000 04:01:46 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Steve Bliss writes:
> In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Paul Easter wrote:
> 
> > In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Steve Bliss writes:
> > > In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Paul Easter wrote:
> > 
> > > I'm not sure about the the "Minifig Motorcycle with 3 Wheels" name.  I
> > > don't *dislike* it, but I wonder if there's something better. Specifically:
> > 
> > Lutz had these two lines in his list;
> > 30189  Tricycle Pivot
> > 30190  Tricycle Front Wheel Center
> > I personally like Tricycle, but I had a suggestion to change it, so I did.
> 
> I kinda like Tricycle.  It *might* be confused with the DUPLO Tricycle, but
> I doubt it.
> 
> > The more I think about it, I don't think it should be there(Minifig).
> 
> I'm thinking so, too.  Can you drop it?
> 
> > > - Might there be some word or term that would cover all the minifig/prefab
> > > vehicles: the motorcycle, the bicycle and the motortrike.
> > 
> > Cycles, other vehicles?
> 
> How about "Bike"?  Like:
> 
> Bike  2 Wheel Bicycle
> Bike  2 Wheel Motorcycle
> Bike  3 Wheel Motorcycle

I will change the names to begin with "Bike  3 Wheel Motorcycle " unless
someone has stong feelings for not doing it.

> > > Could you make another shortcut file?  One that would include a minifig
> > > rider?  This file would be:
> > > 
> > > 30187C02.DAT  Motorcycle with 3 Wheels with Rider Shortcut
> > 
> > Should the minifig be a shortcut as well, or all the minifig pieces with the
> > bike in one file? The head will need to be verticle for helmet placement, if
> > possible, right?
> 
> I can go either way on whether the minifig parts should be inlined or a
> separate shortcut file.  Does a minifig strike the same pose on the the
> three different vehicles?  I don't think they do.  But, if they do pose the
> same way, then a shortcut minifig file would make sense.  Otherwise, for
> the sake of minimizing extra files, just put the minifig parts inline.
> 
> If you include a helmet on the rider (this *is* a legal requirement in some
> places ;), then it will make it easy for people to replace the helmet with
> whatever hat they want.

I was able to make a minifig with the modeler function of LDAO. When minifig
is positioned on the bike, he/she/it... leans forward, so I will include a
helmet and visor in the shortcut file.
Here is the next complication to making a bike with minfig, either the
minifig or the bike will need to be color hard coded, or both will be the
same color.

This makes me lean more toward having a minifig shortcut that can have the
"clothing" parts be changed as a whole.
This will not be an issue when some of the LCAD programs include a
"Inline"(un-group, break apart, explode, etc.)  and  "Sub-part"(group,
combine, block, etc.) functions.

> > > Colorwise, I'd make the wheel centres white in the shortcut files.  I did a
> > > (very) short survey, and it looks like white is the predominant wheel-hub
> > > color for motortrikes.
> > 
> > This is what I thought... The few we had all had white wheels, however, we
> > had some yellow wheels that came on other sets. I didn't check to see if
> > other sets had white or other color wheels.
> 
> That's fine.  The general shortcut file doesn't have to be perfect.  It
> makes sense (to me) to hard-code the hub color, but make the body color
> flexible.
> 
> If the hubs are at strange positions in the shortcut file, you might even
> put the three wheels in a different shortcut file, so modelers can change
> the hub colors, but keep the positioning correct.

None of the wheels are at strange positions, as far as I know...
With the exception of the front wheel being in another "shortcut" file, to
allow for turning the front assembly. (Which will most always be straight
with a minifig attached to it)


Paul


... not so innocent bystander ...  :D



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  Re: New Part - 30187 Minifig Motorcycle with 3 Wheels Body
 
(...) I agree with your reasoning here. Next problem: the part number for the "rider shortcut". Should it be a minifig range number, or similar to the trike numbers? Steve (26 years ago, 18-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)

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  Re: New Part - 30187 Minifig Motorcycle with 3 Wheels Body
 
(...) It's the only *current* category that makes sense. We may need to switch over to a generic "Vehicle" category at sometime. (...) I kinda like Tricycle. It *might* be confused with the DUPLO Tricycle, but I doubt it. (...) I'm thinking so, too. (...) (26 years ago, 15-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)

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