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Re: Update on Virtual Plans
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Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:35:35 GMT
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On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:59:07 GMT, legoverse@geocities.com (Terry K)
wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:30:12 GMT, blisses@worldnet.att.net (Steve
> Bliss) wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:25:36 GMT, legoverse@geocities.com (Terry K)
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > On your FTL ducts, are the red things the much-awaited canoe? If not,
> > > what the heck is it?
> > 
> > Bingo!  I figured you'd get that one (and no one else would).
> 
> Ah.  This wasn't just because I once said I don't care if the canoe
> ever gets done in LDraw, is it?  Just sticking it in my face and
> saying "See! Canoes -can- be used in space"  :-)

Once?  I thought we had a running gag on that one.

> I think the trunks would look better.  They have that nice flared end
> on 'em.  The barrels always seem to look too much like, well, barrels.

Maybe I could just stuff the canoes full of trans-orange flames, ala
Time Cruisers.

Wow, that would be hideous.

> You might try an open framework of technic beams.  With a central
> corridor large enough for a MF.

That was my general hope.

> How about an upper and lower beam, approx MF height apart. Connect
> with shorter beams vertically and some longer ones stretching
> diagonally corner to corner.  Assuming all the ratios come out right
> and work, that should be fairly stiff.

I don't want to push too hard against lugnet.build (well, maybe I do,
but I'm not quite ready) so I'll keep this short.  Last night I made a
simple 2D frame, with 12L beams diagonally bracing two super-beams built
from 16L beams and 1x4 plates above and below.  It worked fairly well,
but I needed occasional uprights of bricks between the horizontal beams.
Those were move important than putting 10L beams vertically with
friction pegs.

Interesting, I just pushed some numbers through Excel, and it looks like
12L beams are the only beams suited for diagonal bracing.  They can be
placed at two different pitches (advancing 6 or 8 stud-widths).  No
other long-beam can do diagonals (using the full length of the beam).
No wonder TLG doesn't make as many 10L beams.

> Then just figure out how to
> hide it internally.
> (boy, it sure is easy to spout advice like that <g>)

Actually, I figured the central hull would be pretty much rough and
exposed.  All the living on the ship takes place in the modules, the
central corridor is just a way to get from one module to another.  And
it occasionally serves to let the engineers get at problem spots.

> > I'd like to be able to pick up the entire model when it's actually
> > complete (even if I need a friend or two to help me).  I might have to
> > sacrifice the idea of the crew being able to walk through the core, and
> > make the core more-or-less solid (or at least impassable).  I'll just
> > put transmats in each module.
> 
> Oh yeah, wimp out.  Take the techno-babble route.  :-)

Well, I've already been accused of looking like Star Trek (which I had
kinda realized, already).  Why not go all the way?

Steve



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Update on Virtual Plans
 
(...) Must be a running gag. It sure as hell isn't floating. (...) Hideous? I thought it was hilarious. But please don't do it. (...) That is interesting. I will have to try to remember that factoid. (...) You look like Star Trek? What an enigmatic (...) (28 years ago, 15-Jan-99, to lugnet.cad)
  Re: Update on Virtual Plans
 
(...) True, this is because it makes a phytagorean trinagle, right, with 6-8-10 sides. (A multiple of 3-4-5.) I've also used this fact to make a modular tower suitable for a creeping crane (that's the correct term, right?). So far, only the tower is (...) (28 years ago, 15-Jan-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.build)

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  Re: Update on Virtual Plans
 
(...) Ah. This wasn't just because I once said I don't care if the canoe ever gets done in LDraw, is it? Just sticking it in my face and saying "See! Canoes -can- be used in space" :-) (...) I think the trunks would look better. They have that nice (...) (28 years ago, 14-Jan-99, to lugnet.cad)

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