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| I've submitted the flex-system tubing for voting. Hopefully it will be in the next vote. In the mean time, you can grab them from: (URL) people interested in modeling _bent_ flexible hoses, I have a tool here (scroll down to the hose images): (URL) (24 years ago, 7-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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| (...) Cool. Where can I read about scaling? It sounds like I just need to take one of the ends and scale it to the length I need (in this case a span of 26 studs worth of bricks from one end of the brick to the other). ++Lar (24 years ago, 7-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
| | | | | Re: tubing [DAT]
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| (...) If the ends are covered, you don't need to worry too much about the end points. So you can take on of the end points and scale it to your needs, as you say. You can start with this line: 1 16 -40 1 0 0 -20 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 76.DAT and change the (...) (24 years ago, 7-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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| (...) Cool. That worked. I had to edit the MPD by hand, though, I could not just edit the matrix values in MLCad directly. I think I found an MLCad quirk though. With non unit scaling/rotation factors I found that I could not move the part in the (...) (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| (...) I don't think that users would normally want to scale parts. The part you were presented with just now is probably the exception: No other parts in the LDraw library should be scaled to other sizes than the ones they come in. But then again, (...) (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| (...) If I ever had to model string I probably would use a scaled cylinder... I would like to see your part become official! It's very useful. (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| (...) That sounds very reasonable. But the cylinder isn't a part, it's a primitive. So to insert one, the user would normally use a text editor of some sorts, not an LDraw editor. The user, being an advanced user, would probably scale the element in (...) (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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| (...) You mean people don't insert 50-Foot Minifigs by scaling them? So much fun... -Erik (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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| (...) OK, I have done a similar thing in my PCC which uses yellow tubing for handrails. the tubing needs to be 14 plates high so I changed the length -20 to -14*8 by hand in the mpd to get the length right, then moved/rotated the tubing around in (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
| | | | | Re: tubing [DAT]
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| (...) I think the "can't move in the long direction" problem would be solved if you put the modified command line in a separate dat file, then used that new file like a part. For example (and only slightly in a different direction, style-wise), you (...) (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| Larry Pieniazek wrote... (...) I don't know of any problems (knock knock). If you would care to e-mail me your DAT (MPD) file, I will check it with L3Lab, L3P and POVRay. /Lars (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| (...) Thanks. I'll try to work up a simple one that exhibits the same problem, that particular DAT isn't for public consumption. (...) c ">/"++" c "s"" to yield ( :-) ) ++Lar (24 years ago, 29-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
| | | | | Re: tubing [DAT]
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| In lugnet.cad.dev, Larry Pieniazek writes: Ok, for anyone that wants to give this a whirl... I've attached a sample MPD. It has tubing the length I expect... 14 plates high. It renders fine in MLCad and in L3Lab (using the versions I posted (...) (24 years ago, 30-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| Larry Pieniazek wrote... (...) My "fake" seams seem to be the problem ;-) As you can see on (URL) scale parts a little bit to make a seam between parts. ("parts" are here DAT files found in the PARTS directory [1]) Normally this works fine, because (...) (24 years ago, 3-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| (...) Try looking for lines with the following: 0 [Official|Unofficial] ... [Part|Element|Primit...art|Model] I admit, the "Official/Unofficial" flag is kludgy, but I was working with what I had... Another MPD suggestion: 0 FILEEND. This would allow (...) (24 years ago, 3-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| (...) MPD. (...) MLCad (...) either (...) Great sleuthing. I'd say that is it. The suggestion given earlier to create an ersatz part that embeds the scaled 76 in it, ensuring that the 76 is somewhere else, sounds like it might fool your scaler into (...) (24 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| Larry Pieniazek wrote... (...) No, I'm afraid this won't work. The 76.dat is NOT somewhere else, it is still in PARTS. You only move the referencing line type 1 to another file. (I take it you are referring to Steve's 112.dat) The clue is to prevent (...) (24 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| (...) file. (...) Hmm... maybe then I need to generate my own custom version of 76.dat by not resizing/scaling but instead reshaping it to be the right length. I need to look at that. (callit 76_26plates.dat when it is 26 plates long, etc.) Like I (...) (24 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| Larry Pieniazek wrote... (...) The clue is to prevent L3xx from finding 76.dat in PARTS. This can also be achieved by adding 76.dat to your MPD. /Lars (24 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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