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Subject: 
Re: Where are the Belville lovers..?
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Date: 
Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:37:34 GMT
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In lugnet.belville, Damien Nesbit wrote:

  
Leo,

Sorry to have been away for so long. There have been a few things keeping me out of the loop, but its mainly been a new job and much less free time. Shortly after our last series of postings, I finally got to work on customizing some pieces to work towards the goal that you mention above. I’m at my job now, so I can’t post flicks immedeately, but I’ll get ‘em up on brickshelf & post a notice here ASAP. I think that you’ll like what I’ve been able to accomplish so far. Anyways, keep your eyes peeled.

Cheers, Damien

Hi Damien,

At first ,congratulations with your new job. And I too have that problem of having not much free time. But I am looking forward to see more of your wonderful creations. They are very inspiring, and I like them very much.

It amazes me that, seemingly, only a few people can use this Belville figures in an interesting way. Well, maybe some good pictures will change that a little..

Leo..


Subject: 
Re: Where are the Belville lovers..?
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In lugnet.belville, Leo Vermeulen wrote:
   My greatest wish; Belville scaled knights, soldiers, and so on. ...With all movable limbs...

Leo,

Sorry to have been away for so long. There have been a few things keeping me out of the loop, but its mainly been a new job and much less free time. Shortly after our last series of postings, I finally got to work on customizing some pieces to work towards the goal that you mention above. I’m at my job now, so I can’t post flicks immedeately, but I’ll get ‘em up on brickshelf & post a notice here ASAP. I think that you’ll like what I’ve been able to accomplish so far. Anyways, keep your eyes peeled.

Cheers, Damien


Subject: 
Building a Belville Castle
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Date: 
Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:51:15 GMT
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Nothing soft and pink with these Belville ladies. Here, they are laying tiles on
the floor of the Chapel of Sokenniwell Castle. Why is it, that always the girls
do the hard work in the Belville society?
Simply, TLG forgot, and still  forget, to give us enough males to do the job.

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=207175

Enjoy...


Subject: 
Re: Where are the Belville lovers..?
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Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:26:41 GMT
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I've just found another 'pretty gruesome' one :-)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bricklovinfreakboy/229767747/

With friendly greetings, M. Moolhuysen


Subject: 
Re: Where are the Belville lovers..?
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Mon, 28 Aug 2006 06:18:59 GMT
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In lugnet.belville, Manfred Moolhuysen wrote:
   Well, at least there are a few builders on Brickshelf that use Belville figures in interesting ways:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=95465
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=120181
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=kezzart
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=42785
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=119632
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=Damien27

And in the long fan-driven range of tribute remakings of set #1692 - Town Square in other LEGO themes, there is also a Belville one: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=60584

With friendly greetings, M. Moolhuysen

Some of these examples show us that Belville figures can be used in a non-pink and non-sissy way. The problem is that TLG has decided to make this theme only for girls. And almost automatically, boys don’t like them. But for the adult builders, they have lots of possibilities, because of their flexibility and better proportions. In my opinion, it is almost a shame that the newer ones has rigid arms and feet, but undoubtedly this is due to cheaper production costs. What a pity.

My greatest wish; Belville scaled knights, soldiers, and so on. ...With all movable limbs...


Subject: 
Re: Where are the Belville lovers..?
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lugnet.belville
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Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:11:33 GMT
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Well, at least there are a few builders on Brickshelf that use Belville figures in interesting ways:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=95465
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=120181
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=kezzart
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=42785
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=119632
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=Damien27

And in the long fan-driven range of tribute remakings of set #1692 - Town Square in other LEGO themes, there is also a Belville one: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=60584

With friendly greetings, M. Moolhuysen


Subject: 
Re: Where are the Belville lovers..?
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lugnet.belville
Date: 
Fri, 25 Aug 2006 05:43:57 GMT
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In lugnet.belville, Melody Brown wrote:
In lugnet.belville, Leo Vermeulen wrote:
What has happened with the good old Belville theme? It isn’t even mentioned as a
shortcut on the home page of Lugnet anymore. I like this figures simply because
they have exact the right scale. And what is more, they have movable knees and
elbows. That is to say, the older ones.
Their proportions are better than the standard minifig, so you can make your
models in a better length/width ratio.
I think, Belville don’t need to be all pink and sissy. My belvilles, for
instance, are building Sokenniwel Castle, maybe not the biggest, but certainly
the most powerful castle in LEGO-history.
Is it really only me who like this Belville figures more than the standard
minifig within this whole LEGO-community?

I like them too, I think some of them are rather cute ;)  I think you will find
a few more who also like them, maybe they are only reading this and not joining
in with their say or they simply do not read lugnet at all, or even have seen
this post :) But I am sure they are out there!

I love the food too (they share with Scala and system) and lots of the other
goodies and colours.... mmmm :)

I am looking forward to seeing your castle, sounds neat, do you have any
pictures of it so far?


Mel

May I invite you for a grand tour to Sokenniwell Castle?

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=legomaat

Building time; 5 years and still going..
Finally, it will be a tourist attraction, with a terrace,and so on, and full of
all kind of Belville figures..


Subject: 
Re: Where are the Belville lovers..?
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lugnet.belville
Date: 
Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:44:24 GMT
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In lugnet.belville, Leo Vermeulen wrote:
What has happened with the good old Belville theme? It isn’t even mentioned as a
shortcut on the home page of Lugnet anymore. I like this figures simply because
they have exact the right scale. And what is more, they have movable knees and
elbows. That is to say, the older ones.
Their proportions are better than the standard minifig, so you can make your
models in a better length/width ratio.
I think, Belville don’t need to be all pink and sissy. My belvilles, for
instance, are building Sokenniwel Castle, maybe not the biggest, but certainly
the most powerful castle in LEGO-history.
Is it really only me who like this Belville figures more than the standard
minifig within this whole LEGO-community?

I like them too, I think some of them are rather cute ;)  I think you will find
a few more who also like them, maybe they are only reading this and not joining
in with their say or they simply do not read lugnet at all, or even have seen
this post :) But I am sure they are out there!

I love the food too (they share with Scala and system) and lots of the other
goodies and colours.... mmmm :)

I am looking forward to seeing your castle, sounds neat, do you have any
pictures of it so far?


Mel


Subject: 
Where are the Belville lovers..?
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lugnet.belville
Date: 
Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:14:06 GMT
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What has happened with the good old Belville theme? It isn’t even mentioned as a
shortcut on the home page of Lugnet anymore. I like this figures simply because
they have exact the right scale. And what is more, they have movable knees and
elbows. That is to say, the older ones.
Their proportions are better than the standard minifig, so you can make your
models in a better length/width ratio.
I think, Belville don’t need to be all pink and sissy. My belvilles, for
instance, are building Sokenniwel Castle, maybe not the biggest, but certainly
the most powerful castle in LEGO-history.
Is it really only me who like this Belville figures more than the standard
minifig within this whole LEGO-community?


Subject: 
Re: Wedding Cake Tower
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Date: 
Mon, 17 Jul 2006 01:21:36 GMT
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I have been lucky enough to see this belville vortex in the brick.
I also hope to see more photos as this pic realy doesn't do justice to the
detail of the peice. Stairwells, gallows, ect.
Well done Pete.
Perhaps if you post more photos, you might like to show the rest of it ?

Steve


Subject: 
Re: Wedding Cake Tower
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lugnet.belville
Date: 
Fri, 14 Jul 2006 06:29:26 GMT
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Pete White wrote:
Not the WC, it's the Wedding Cake Tower (WCT) thanks Bob for the name ;^)

This is a MOC from approximately 18-24 months ago, where I tried to incorporate
as many Belville pieces as possible, in the end you can probably only see 30% of
them and in the photo about 20%.

Using light yellow, light violet, dark pink, white, yellow, orange and
trans-pink in large dollops, it's an icecream vendors nightmare.

Departing a great deal from the original plan while building, an outer facade
covered up some things I wasn't happy with and concealed some problems with
scale.

The first storey is chunky and would have been reworked, if it didn't mean total
demolition. Call it a work in limbo. I dont mind the top, where it reverted to a
more traditional castley feel in white and trans-pink.

Only one photo at the moment, I'll get some more that show design details in the
coming week.

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1893136

-pete.w

Nice work pete.w!

Any chance of inverting the tower and remodelling the bottom part while
preserving the top?

Spotlighted. Thanks for sharing.

Cheers

Richie Dulin


Subject: 
Wedding Cake Tower
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Date: 
Fri, 14 Jul 2006 04:18:08 GMT
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Not the WC, it's the Wedding Cake Tower (WCT) thanks Bob for the name ;^)

This is a MOC from approximately 18-24 months ago, where I tried to incorporate
as many Belville pieces as possible, in the end you can probably only see 30% of
them and in the photo about 20%.

Using light yellow, light violet, dark pink, white, yellow, orange and
trans-pink in large dollops, it's an icecream vendors nightmare.

Departing a great deal from the original plan while building, an outer facade
covered up some things I wasn't happy with and concealed some problems with
scale.

The first storey is chunky and would have been reworked, if it didn't mean total
demolition. Call it a work in limbo. I dont mind the top, where it reverted to a
more traditional castley feel in white and trans-pink.

Only one photo at the moment, I'll get some more that show design details in the
coming week.

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1893136

-pete.w


Subject: 
SNVT Build-a-Train (Fantasy Catagory)
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lugnet.harrypotter, lugnet.castle, lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars, lugnet.adventurers, lugnet.pirates, lugnet.vikings, lugnet.belville
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I just wanted to make sure all you non-train heads out there were aware that one
of the catagories for the SNVT Build-a-Train contest is "Fantasy".  We wanted to
allow everyone participate and this is were everyone can participate.  Some
ideas...

Castle themed passenger train.
Space themed cargo train.
Pirate Raiders.
Viking Long "Train".
Etc. Etc.

I didn't think this part of the contest was given enough attention in my
origional post so I wanted to draw attention to it now.

For full contest rules please look here...

http://save.9vtrains.com/index.php?topic=contest


I hope to see some really cool "Fantasy" trains over the coarse of the contest!


FUT -> lugnet.general

Thanks,


Eric Kingsley


Subject: 
"On the waterfront"
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Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:53:51 GMT
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It is very quiet in the Belville corner. To set it afloat again, a little
scenery.

Not from me, but a good friend of me.

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1435785


Subject: 
Re: I posted some new pics y'all, otherwise known as the confessions of a belville builder
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Sun, 18 Sep 2005 22:41:58 GMT
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In lugnet.belville, Damien Nesbit wrote:
Um, Okay.
     Belville.  Its so sissy.  How do we toughen it up?  Easy. Eliminate the
pink, then add weapons.
     For those of you that have seen my "Redbrick Island" layout, I've
constructed a swordshoppe to add to it. Whereas the rest of the island's
buildings basically have 3 open sides and a detailled facade, this bulding is
"closed" on two sides so that the proprietor can display as many weapons as
possible. This will probably be rebuilt as I can decide how to display more
weapons as without being too cluttered.

the link:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=145647

     After running a search for "technic figure" or "maxi-fig" or some other
similar term through the brickshelf galleries, I discovered the aformentioned
work of Brent (see previous posts to .belville).  It inspired me to try to build
a spacecraft for my little uglies.  I'm not that impressed with it, and I hated
it more and more with each added brick, but I really wanted to complete it and
document it as an excercise. So I did.  FYI: I still haven't disassembled it,
though I swear that I'm going to.

the link:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=145474

     However, the starspeeder is not the only thing that needs a tear down.  I
really want to pull it all apart soon and try to work on something big.
Although I should mention that a large part of my motivation when working on my
belville creations is an attempt to illustrate to TLG how to expand the line. I
usually build with a "set mentality", thinking all the while of at least
presenting a format for cool, affordable, belville sets.  Either way, most of my
parts are tied up in construction, and it was working within the limits of my
collection that generated this building:

the link:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=145651

     Finally, I've been reading a lot about brikwars and thinking about the
general structure of incorporating belville combatants into the fabric of the
games.  So here are some of the weapons that we might see produced en masse when
equipping your Belville Brikwarriors.

Archers:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1388298

Shields:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1388188

Long Pole Arm aka 2 Constables man a checkpoint:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1388352

sorry to talk so much, i hope that you enjoy it.

Word.

D.

Brilliant again, Damien.

I especially like the outpost of the archers. This is a good inspiration for
doing something more with these little ladies.

Till now I used them only as a sort of referential of the dimensions of my
buildings.

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=972972

But that is going to change.......

Thanks for sharing.

Leo.


Subject: 
I posted some new pics y'all, otherwise known as the confessions of a belville builder
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.belville
Date: 
Fri, 16 Sep 2005 18:56:20 GMT
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Um, Okay.
     Belville.  Its so sissy.  How do we toughen it up?  Easy. Eliminate the
pink, then add weapons.
     For those of you that have seen my "Redbrick Island" layout, I've
constructed a swordshoppe to add to it. Whereas the rest of the island's
buildings basically have 3 open sides and a detailled facade, this bulding is
"closed" on two sides so that the proprietor can display as many weapons as
possible. This will probably be rebuilt as I can decide how to display more
weapons as without being too cluttered.

the link:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=145647

     After running a search for "technic figure" or "maxi-fig" or some other
similar term through the brickshelf galleries, I discovered the aformentioned
work of Brent (see previous posts to .belville).  It inspired me to try to build
a spacecraft for my little uglies.  I'm not that impressed with it, and I hated
it more and more with each added brick, but I really wanted to complete it and
document it as an excercise. So I did.  FYI: I still haven't disassembled it,
though I swear that I'm going to.

the link:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=145474

     However, the starspeeder is not the only thing that needs a tear down.  I
really want to pull it all apart soon and try to work on something big.
Although I should mention that a large part of my motivation when working on my
belville creations is an attempt to illustrate to TLG how to expand the line. I
usually build with a "set mentality", thinking all the while of at least
presenting a format for cool, affordable, belville sets.  Either way, most of my
parts are tied up in construction, and it was working within the limits of my
collection that generated this building:

the link:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=145651

     Finally, I've been reading a lot about brikwars and thinking about the
general structure of incorporating belville combatants into the fabric of the
games.  So here are some of the weapons that we might see produced en masse when
equipping your Belville Brikwarriors.

Archers:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1388298

Shields:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1388188

Long Pole Arm aka 2 Constables man a checkpoint:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1388352

sorry to talk so much, i hope that you enjoy it.

Word.

D.


Subject: 
was Re: 2 guys on brickshelf who inspire me, is now LEO, where can I see more of your work!?!
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Thanks for this useful information. The more I look at your work, the more I
like it. I always build op a scale 1:25, so for me it was a small step to put those Bel-figs in.

     Leo, Leo, Leo, the large model of yours (I believe that you referred to it
as "the ruins", but I'm not sure) that was photographed at brickfest was so
freaking awesome.  I've been trying to find more pics of your work, but I have
not yet found any.  Where do you keep it? I want to see more!

Thanks to you, I got some ideas and I am collecting the figs.

     I can't tell you how flattered I am to know this. Please try to share your
new work with the rest of us when you can.

I just posted some new pics to brickshelf, but I want to put a few more up
before I make an "announcement" about them.
Stay tuned, I'm gonna try to knock it out before I split for work.
-D


Subject: 
Re: 2 guys on brickshelf who inspire me
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In lugnet.belville, Damien Nesbit wrote:
In lugnet.belville, brent skadan wrote:

Pardon my ignorance; are belville figures fully articulated like technic
figures? and if so are they difficult to acquire? I am getting bored with the
look of technic figures.


P.S.

Thank you for listing me as an inspiration, that’s really nice of you.

Brent (aka Brently Mills)


Yo, B!  You deserve the credit both for the scale and scope of your work, and
for your humility.
     In answer to your question, yes, Original (pre 2004)  belville figs are
fully articulated with joints at the neck, shoulders, elbows, wrists, hips,
knees, and ankles.  The newer belville figs do not have articulated elbows
(those bastards!).
     Belville vs. techfig in favor of belville?  2 sizes of figure (adult and
child), and the hands can hold any "antennae-width" handle, just like a
mini-fig, thereby enabling b-figs to use almost any minifig accessory (and
usually looking more appropriate in terms of scale).  The negative of belville
figs?  The color palette is limited, and so are the male figures. Oh, and there
are no crash helmets for the belville figs.  If you're looking to acquire
belville figs, go to bricklink.  Most of the rarer figs are located in europe,
so shipping costs can get pricey, but you will find that the most common figs
are readily available in the US, and sell for about $0.60.  The rarer figs,
however, can be as high as $5.00.  Although I'm broke and i hate to have buying
competition, i offer that advice freely.  So shop well, killa B!  I look forward
to your creations and I promise to post pics of my own frustrated build attempts
since viewing your work as soon as they are available.
Cheers,
D.


Thanks for this useful information. The more I look at your work, the more I
like it. I always build op a scale 1:25, so for me it was a small step to put
those Bel-figs in. Thanks to you, I got some ideas and I am collecting the figs.
Living in Europe, I have to say that most of my Bel-figs are ordered in the US.
As far as I know, I am the only one in Europe who like this figs. There are lots
of them arround of course, but most of them are more or less damaged by kids
playing with them. Here, it is unfortunally not a collectors item.

B.T.W, I was the builder of that ruin. It was one of the first attempts to use
lovely Flora.


Subject: 
Re: 2 guys on brickshelf who inspire me
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.belville
Date: 
Fri, 9 Sep 2005 17:15:12 GMT
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In lugnet.belville, brent skadan wrote:

Pardon my ignorance; are belville figures fully articulated like technic
figures? and if so are they difficult to acquire? I am getting bored with the
look of technic figures.


P.S.

Thank you for listing me as an inspiration, that’s really nice of you.

Brent (aka Brently Mills)


Yo, B!  You deserve the credit both for the scale and scope of your work, and
for your humility.
     In answer to your question, yes, Original (pre 2004)  belville figs are
fully articulated with joints at the neck, shoulders, elbows, wrists, hips,
knees, and ankles.  The newer belville figs do not have articulated elbows
(those bastards!).
     Belville vs. techfig in favor of belville?  2 sizes of figure (adult and
child), and the hands can hold any "antennae-width" handle, just like a
mini-fig, thereby enabling b-figs to use almost any minifig accessory (and
usually looking more appropriate in terms of scale).  The negative of belville
figs?  The color palette is limited, and so are the male figures. Oh, and there
are no crash helmets for the belville figs.  If you're looking to acquire
belville figs, go to bricklink.  Most of the rarer figs are located in europe,
so shipping costs can get pricey, but you will find that the most common figs
are readily available in the US, and sell for about $0.60.  The rarer figs,
however, can be as high as $5.00.  Although I'm broke and i hate to have buying
competition, i offer that advice freely.  So shop well, killa B!  I look forward
to your creations and I promise to post pics of my own frustrated build attempts
since viewing your work as soon as they are available.
Cheers,
D.


Subject: 
Re: 2 guys on brickshelf who inspire me
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.belville
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Thu, 8 Sep 2005 20:58:39 GMT
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In lugnet.belville, Damien Nesbit wrote:
First, Brently Mills, although he uses mostly Technic Maxi-Figs, he works in a
similar scale, and his work rocks, so go and check out his brickshelf folder:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=brentlymills

Then go and check out Kezzart, whose minifig work uses tons of belville pieces,
but who's belville work is incomparable:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=kezzart

Oh, and then go and check out my folder, I don't think that I've got anything on
those two guys, but check it out anyway:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=Damien27

eagerly awaiting a martial-arts themed belville line (maybe along the lines of
crouching tiger and hero),



Pardon my ignorance; are belville figures fully articulated like technic
figures? and if so are they difficult to acquire? I am getting bored with the
look of technic figures.


P.S.

Thank you for listing me as an inspiration, that’s really nice of you.

Brent (aka Brently Mills)



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