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Re: Reducing the level of chatter in lugnet.lego.direct
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lugnet.admin.nntp
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Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:03:58 GMT
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Well this is a first. Only part of this message got posted.
LUGNET was extremely slow last night, bogging and timing out
left, right, and centre. I never thought that only part
of a message could end up being posted.
Man I really don't want to type all that again :[
KDJ
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LUGNETer #203, Windsor, Ontario, Canada
In lugnet.admin.nntp, Kyle D. Jackson writes:
> [I finally trimmed lugnet.lego.direct..., I just now remembered Todd's
> "Murphy's Law" post.]
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> In lugnet.admin.nntp, Thomas Garrison writes:
> > In lugnet.admin.nntp, Kyle D. Jackson writes:
> > > I would further disable any message from going into lego.direct
> > > if it was cross-posted (either new or a reply). That group has
> > > a very specific charter, namely:
> > > > http://news.lugnet.com/lego/direct/?n=6
> > > Thus, to me, by definition the content is not suitable for cross-posting
> > > with other groups.
> >
> > ?? Suppose I posted a question about Castle which, to quote Todd's post #6
> > above, raised
> > "Issues/concerns/suggestions which haven't yet been raised"
> > ? The resulting thread, although about Castle, would of course live in
> > .lego.direct. I think it likely that many folks in .castle would not read
> > .lego.direct but might have an interest in such a thread; if I could not
> > crosspost, I would probably drop a separate note in Castle announcing the post
> > in .lego.direct (which would of course be crossposting by other means). I
> > don't see anything inappropriate in this scenario[1]. Under Todd's proposed
> > rules, any (presumably topical) followup by an AFOL would go to .castle, thus
> > not cluttering up .lego.direct, while people in .castle would know about the
> > thread if they were interested in follow-ups from Lego.
>
> Well, I didn't read anything in Todd's proposal that specifically
> addresses cross-posting or redirection. He only proposes what would
> be done for messages that land in lugnet.lego.direct, to keep the
> chatter down in that group. So I have not seen him propose what
> would happen should someone want direct a spin-off discussion from
> l.l.d to another group where AFOLs can freely banter it about.
>
> I don't have my own views on cross-posting or redirection sorted
> out very well, but here are my thoughts anyhow:
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> 1) Any message appearing in l.l.d for the first time (new thread)
> should not be cross-posted. It should land in l.l.d. only, helping
> to ensure that it is a very focused post suitable for direct
> discussion with TLC. Thus I feel cross-posts should be disabled
> for that group.
>
> 1a) The danger (I find) if the above is allowed to be cross-posted:
> When someone sees that message in one of the cross-posted groups,
> and doesn't realize it's also in l.l.d., they may reply to it.
> Todd's proposed rules won't allow that because l.l.d is on the list,
> so l.l.d either has to be trimmed from the distribution, or the
> message is rejected in its entirety. Now you still have two separate
> threads going on. I don't think you will be able to avoid parallel
> threads appearing. Heck, we can't even avoid it now within the
> same group! :] I don't think it's such a big deal. If people
> want to read anything "official" from TLC then they'll have to
> keep an eye on that group. It's no real bother in my opinion,
> and is as it should be.
>
> 1b) If someone puts a post i
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