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  Re: change of address
 
(...) Having just unsubscribed all the IDs I could find (1), I think the answer is yes, that is, that subscriptions are tracked by email address, not member. Makes sense in that the use of the confirmation code (sent to tne email address) associated (...) (24 years ago, 12-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
 
  change of address
 
I just noticed, that even though I updated my member profile, the newsgroups are still being sent to my old email address? do I actually have to unsubscribe/resubscribe? (24 years ago, 12-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
 
  Re: Noncompliant software (was: Re: Incorrect group posting)
 
(...) Are you able to change your SMTP server, or are you forced by a firewall to use that one? Also, are you able to use telnet or ssh? (24 years ago, 12-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Noncompliant software (was: Re: Incorrect group posting)
 
(...) control. (...) no (...) Correction...What I meant was that most/all companies have no need to allow employees access to the internet. Maybe some want to try and entice people using the internet to buy their products by having a website, but (...) (24 years ago, 12-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Noncompliant software (was: Re: Incorrect group posting)
 
Larry Pieniazek wrote in message ... <snippedysnippy'o machine> (...) is (...) Could you please explain furter why this is neccesary? As a consultant in the business for 10 years I really have not found any evidents of trouth in this statement. (...) (24 years ago, 12-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Noncompliant software (was: Re: Incorrect group posting)
 
(...) It was a socratic question. The point was that you certainly do have control over whether your messages appear threaded. (...) Already answered. RTRFC. (...) I meant that nothing on the lugnet.com server is preventing you from posting from (...) (24 years ago, 12-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Noncompliant software (was: Re: Incorrect group posting)
 
(...) As he just said, it's for e-mail *and* news. (24 years ago, 12-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Noncompliant software (was: Re: Incorrect group posting)
 
(...) Just a suggestion...look at the email address it came through...The threaded ones are done on the web view at home, while the others are through email at work. (...) I'll have a look when and if I ever get time. (...) But what about SMTP [I (...) (24 years ago, 12-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Noncompliant software (was: Re: Incorrect group posting)
 
(...) Beg all you want. You can't deny responsibility. You've been told what not to do, if you persist in doing it, you're responsible. Therefore you have control. (...) No company "has little or no need to use the internet". Not if it wants to (...) (24 years ago, 11-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Noncompliant software (was: Re: Incorrect group posting)
 
(...) How would you explain that your message just now (which I'm replying to) appears properly threaded? (...) Actually, it is. See RFC822 "Standard for the Format of ARPA Internet Text Messages" and RFC1138, RFC1148, RFC1327 and RFC2156. (...) (...) (24 years ago, 11-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Noncompliant software (was: Re: Incorrect group posting)
 
(...) I beg to differ on this...I have NO control over whether messages appear threaded...The software I use is MS Outlook. From this, the message goes to a MS Exchange server. It is this that causes the problem. Unfortunately, this piece of (...) (24 years ago, 11-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Noncompliant software (was: Re: Incorrect group posting)
 
(...) It's (at least) MS Outlook, or some variant, or the MS Exchange server that processes the mail, or something in the way some sysops configure it, or something in the way users use it, based on the quick tests I conducted. That's not to say (...) (24 years ago, 11-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Noncompliant software (was: Re: Incorrect group posting)
 
(...) Berating? I saw no berating. I merely suggested that he ought to stop complaining about how things are done here at LUGNET until his own house is in order. Further, you see, he actually DOES have control. He can change jobs, he is working for (...) (24 years ago, 11-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Noncompliant software (was: Re: Incorrect group posting)
 
(...) It identifies itself as: X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.####.#) in the SMTP headers, and that's about all I know. LarryP posted some more info though that might help. --Todd (24 years ago, 11-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Noncompliant software (was: Re: Incorrect group posting)
 
Todd Lehman wrote in message ... <snipped a few lines> (...) from (...) this (...) software -- (...) disasterous. (...) Do you know what software that is causing the problem? Would be a nice thing to know, so I can avoid it. /Joakim (24 years ago, 11-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Noncompliant software (was: Re: Incorrect group posting)
 
(...) Totally agree. It's not that it works weirdly, it's that it acts brokenly. If enough places rejected broken postings/messages, the offending software would get fixed. (24 years ago, 11-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Broken mailers which mess up threading
 
(...) Indeed. NT or IE or the combination thereof is broken in this regard, surprise surprise. IE doesn't directly deal with mime types, it foists the job off on NT (per: (URL) you will need to unwrap this to read it) Instead it is left to the OS (...) (24 years ago, 10-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
 
  Re: Broken mailers which mess up threading
 
(...) Actually, there never was any other way to view raw messages via HTTP than by clicking the "View Raw Message" link, which goes to the raw.cgi script. (...) raw.cgi sends a MIME content-type of 'text/plain', so you should never see anything (...) (24 years ago, 10-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
 
  Re: Broken mailers which mess up threading
 
(...) BTW, leave the bouncer turned on if you would! I think it is a great idea. That way when I get a bounce I can well and truly roast the originator via email reply for wasting my time instead of missing any opportunity because I didn't realise (...) (24 years ago, 10-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
 
  Re: Broken mailers which mess up threading
 
(...) message (...) 1. Examine the message itself. Notice the headers even in the non raw view... This was a "courtesy copy" mailed to me as well as posted. Ironically enough, by guess who. I disclaim responsibility for this. Now and forevermore. I (...) (24 years ago, 10-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp)


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