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Re: lugnet.* discussion groups by mail
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Date: 
Mon, 26 Oct 1998 23:07:49 GMT
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Matthew Miller wrote:
> Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote:
> > Agreed, it's not perfect, but IMO, it would be unethical (and therefore it
> > is simply not an option) to ever publish messages here from anyone who has
> > not gone through the news posting setup and explicitly said they understand
> > all the legal rigamarole -- publishing of their name, their content, etc.
> 
> After thinking for a bit, I think I would feel okay about this if you could
> conspire with the list owner to explain all of this in the info-message for
> the list. I just don't want people to be surprised by it.

Hmm, this problem must come up all the time with mailing list technology
and the abundance of list exploders.  I wonder how this scenario differs from
the reverse situation, where a mailing list would have to reject posts coming
from people -it- doesn't recognize.  Because, if, say, lego-robotics@crynwr.com
and  lugnet.robotics@lugnet.com -were- hooked together for message-sharing --
so that they each were simply members of the other's distribution list -- then
both would reject messages from people they didn't recognize.  I guess there'd
be some kind of Venn diagram,
        _________
       /    _____\___
      |    /      |  \
      | A |       |   |
      |   |  A^B  |   |
      |   |       | B |
       \__\______/    |
           \_________/

with only messages from A^B authors showing up in both locations.  This might
be confusing to some readers, but it's a lot like some servers only carrying
certain newsgroups -- all it needs is a picture to explain, and then the
list maintainers try to reduce the A and B areas down to as small an area as
possible.

The added challenge here is that the true subscription list of
lugnet.robotics@lugnet.com is unknown.  There is a known distribution list
of people who receive it via e-mail, but that list is only a small subset of
the people who can actually post to it.  Since it's not a mailing list (but
rather a newsgroup which happens to be sendable via e-mail), it's postable-to
by anyone who can post to any lugnet.* group -- either by posting a message
to lugnet.robotics directly or instead by sending a message via e-mail to
lugnet.robotics@lugnet.com, which in turn gateways that message into the
lugnet.robotics newsgroup.

I've set things up here so that any message to a lugnet.* group via e-mail
which originates from a gateway other than lugnet.groupname@lugnet.com is
silently rejected -- we wouldn't want to be sending out annoying bounce
notifications to people everytime they posted something if they didn't
want it to show up in the respective lugnet group.

So I wonder how mailing list packages deal with this sort of thing?  If the
contents of some lugnet.* group were gatewayed into a mailing list, wouldn't
all the authors not subscribed to that mailing list get bounce notifications
via e-mail from that mailing list daemon?  Or can traditional mailing lists
be set up not to send bounce notifications to people posting messages from
other gateways?

--Todd



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(...) Very true. That's why conspiring together is the best way. :) [much snipped] (...) Yes, that's certainly much messier than I'd thought initially. Ug. (28 years ago, 26-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)

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(...) After thinking for a bit, I think I would feel okay about this if you could conspire with the list owner to explain all of this in the info-message for the list. I just don't want people to be surprised by it. (28 years ago, 26-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)

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