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    Re: Cats and pigeons... —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) I'm missing something here. Retailer catalogs are one thing. They're pretty clearly not for general consumption. But why exactly are the images in question trade secrets? They are posted on a public server by TLG with no protection whatever. (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Cats and pigeons... —Jeremy Sproat
     (...) goes along the same lines as, "we are physically free to walk out the 7-11 door with an unpaid-for pack of gum, so we should be allowed to". But the thing is, is that we as TLC's customers have an unwritten contract with TLC to act (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Cats and pigeons... —Steve Martin
      (...) off the (...) The analogy is flawed. It is illegal to walk out with unpaid-for gum. It is the internets intent to disseminate information. If you post it on your site, you are saying "Hey, look at this". That is how it works out practically (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Cats and pigeons... —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) It's not the same analogy at all. More like if outside the 7-11, on a public sidewalk, there was a big box with a sign over it that said "free for the taking" and it had gum in it. Are we supposed to read the minds of the 7-11 owners as to (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Cats and pigeons... —James Powell
     It seems that there are no links from the "set database" to the images yet. The images still work, but I could not find any that were not listed (perhaps I am being web stupid however...) I still stand by the right to post links to pages on the (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Cats and pigeons... —Todd Lehman
     (...) That's what I thought (that's what I'd read elsewhere just prior to Remy's post): They're not in the set database, but the images are sitting there like sitting ducks. (...) You could copy those images to geocities and link to them and they'd (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Cats and pigeons... —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) Nope. No intent to protect. Now, if you took a stance that said that you wanted everyone to guess what TLG really meant, that would be different (and impossible to enforce). But TLG is not demonstrating intent to protect. Given how much you (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Cats and pigeons... —Chris Ernest Hall
      (...) This assumes that we know what their policy is for announcing sets. Getting a 2000 catalog in a Snowspeeder set isn't really "announcing" the 2000 sets, either, is it? One must assume, absent other statements, that putting the jpegs on the (...) (25 years ago, 11-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: Cats and pigeons... —Todd Lehman
      (...) I dunno man. U'm running on about was much sleep as they probably are and I'll tell you what this ugly bag of mostly water is thinking: I'm thinking it will be nice to hopefully discuss this all with someone at LEGO Direct rationally a month (...) (25 years ago, 11-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: Cats and pigeons... —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) We hear you and feel your pain. You MUST be spun up, that message has more typos than I've ever seen you make in one post. As you noticed, Brad J posted a reply to my DearLEGO post promising some official answers and asking people to settle (...) (25 years ago, 11-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Cats and pigeons... —James Powell
       (...) Yes, stand by it all you want. You have however, just vindicated what I said. Namely, if it is public domain (IE on this side of a firewall at www.lego.com or any other site), then it is by definition in the public domain. I am willing to bet (...) (25 years ago, 11-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Cats and pigeons... —Tom Stangl
     (...) But they WERE in the set database. I saw them at home this morning, and loaded up several of the graphics. Here in the good ole' USA. If you would have been up to buy DYA sets, you'd have seen them too ;-) (...) No. If their web designers are (...) (25 years ago, 11-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Cats and pigeons... —Jeff Stembel
     (...) Morning? Heck, I first accessed the pages themselves around 3:00pm (ET) this afternoon! I saw the images themselves by typing in the URLs at about noon. Jeff (25 years ago, 11-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Cats and pigeons... —Jeff Boen
   (...) not I... I can't believe this conversation is even taking place... let me get this straight.. images are hosted on an open server... someone comes along and finds them by mod'ing the location line of a published, linked image (no doubt (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Cats and pigeons... —Lawrence Wilkes
   (...) the (...) I made a longer post on this somewhere else, but to clarify, here in the UK I could see all the sets clearly linked to from the front of the catalog, with new buttons for Knights Kingdom etc, and all the new sets were in the drop (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
 

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