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(...) Yes. When it comes to mechanics, I see this as the only way. It simplifies the process, avoids potential chaos and builds respect for the authority. But that doesn't mean the admin need not be influenced by, say, an outcry from the people. (...) (19 years ago, 4-Apr-06, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) This is a difficult question to answer in specifics. I'm tempted to re-word your question from, "Should admins disregard.." to, "Should admins consider.." which makes it an easy: "Yes." LUGNET users' voices are always counting for something, (...) (19 years ago, 4-Apr-06, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) Thanks Suz, Sorry to have to dump this here, it just keeps coming up over and over, and I felt it should be addressed. In happier news, I hope once the Lugnet dust settles, you enjoy your well deserved break, and I hope to see you, at a fest, (...) (19 years ago, 4-Apr-06, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Cheers to you both for doing your own thing and for doing it well. I see JLUG as an example of some natural evolution within a community. There was a need for a bar to hang on, and you built it. bravo. -Suz (19 years ago, 4-Apr-06, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Some people seem to think I'm in the midst of a decision. Jake, Lenny and others have refered to "making up my mind" or somesuch about what to do with the website. Perhaps those people missed what I said here: (URL) recently I said that there's been (...) (19 years ago, 4-Apr-06, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) JLUG - The Inherent Evil Agenda?(1) With the on going comments, I refuse to sit idly and watch the same ppl that told us to get our own place now complain that we have. I must say, I find the criticism of JLUG absolutely hilarious. JLUG was (...) (19 years ago, 4-Apr-06, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX) !!
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[snip] David, you rock. I admit it: I'm a wuss. I need handholding to do a job I don't like. And over the years it was often YOUR posts and private mails that got printed out and (literally) posted on my refridgerator to get me through the more (...) (19 years ago, 4-Apr-06, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Gee! I thought that we were here because of Legos. What a batch of wachoes. You all need to take some prozack, that is a drug given to bad behaved children. Get back to the basics, legos. What a bunch of trash for the younger members to see. You all (...) (19 years ago, 1-Apr-06, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) That's not quite a good analogy. A government is imposed upon you. LUGNET is a free service that you use (yes, I know there are memberships, but they're structured more like donations). It's sort of like complaining about, say, Google or (...) (19 years ago, 4-Apr-06, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Personally, I don't think that's fair. That's the same thing as telling people who disagree with a governmental policy in a certain country to like it or leave it. That doesn't benefit anyone - things only get better when people standup and (...) (19 years ago, 4-Apr-06, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I agree, admins that can't be trusted or don't behave for the good of their community are problematic. I belong to at least one message board (not LEGO-related) where a good deal of the above applies. I don't post there often. But if you're (...) (19 years ago, 3-Apr-06, to lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Kelly McKiernan wrote: <snip> (...) There are a few more things that warnings, proper adminship and the like are contingent on-- That the admins are not a bunch of bloviating blowhards (that leaves me out of the admin (...) (19 years ago, 3-Apr-06, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Did I say "to me"? If you actually take the time to actually investigate that site[1], you'll find the little mocking that occurs happens *after the fact*, so I don't really think "staging area" is a very accurate description. But whateva. 1. (...) (19 years ago, 3-Apr-06, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) I'm surprised the mockers are so mysterious to you. Don't they have their own (URL) staging area> and everything? *shrug* -Tim (19 years ago, 3-Apr-06, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) I agree with Jake and Lenny. Conversely to Jake's statement, I think that people do think less of you when you don't allow change to happen by holding onto the reigns and not encouraging people who are willing to lead and empowering them by (...) (19 years ago, 3-Apr-06, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) My expectation is that they're considered, but not as meaningful as admin warnings. If Howard was warned 50 times by other members, and once by an admin, but Harold was only ever warned once by an admin for the same violations; it seems that (...) (19 years ago, 3-Apr-06, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) In my experience, mod/admin decisions should be made based on official warnings rather than peer recommendations, which may be biased or incomplete. For instance, having 5 people say "Don't do that" about something is not as effective as a (...) (19 years ago, 3-Apr-06, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) Actually, that raises another question. Should admins disregard advice/warnings given by others (non-admins and admins in non-admin role) in making decisions about timeouts/bans? Seems to me they should count for something, though exactly how (...) (19 years ago, 3-Apr-06, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) Did you just bash AOL users and abbreviate people to "ppl" in the same sentence? Seems contradictory to me. Maybe we should be the solution, not the problem? --Kyle (URL) (19 years ago, 3-Apr-06, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Only after it spins out of control do you listen. The abuse that you "endure" is brought upon yourself. Have you ever gone back to read what you've written? Some of it is cool and encouraging, but the vaste majority is pure non-sensical, (...) (19 years ago, 3-Apr-06, to lugnet.admin.general)
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