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    Re: Suspend me as well (was Susp. of Chris and Terry) —C. L. GunningCook
   (...) Okay, I was holding off replying, but the night is getting short, so I am going to try to explain this to the best of my ability... Sorry it's a "novel". First of all, I can see many points of views/sides to this story. 4 that I will touch on, (...) (19 years ago, 5-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX) ! 
   
        Re: Suspend me as well (was Susp. of Chris and Terry) —Leonard Hoffman
     (...) The contest is unique - it was a public attempt to remove someone from Lugnet. I feel that its flagrant-ness, plus Chris's obmission that it was not intended as a joke, move it from the 'only on this site' situation. I feel that it contradicts (...) (19 years ago, 5-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
    
         Re: Suspend me as well (was Susp. of Chris and Terry) —David Koudys
      (...) Oh My Goodness--so anything that happens on another website but pertains to someone who posts on LUGNET can get you 'timed out' from LUGNET? Is this an unstated-but-official policy? So if I were to post something in my blog at Sparky's Space (...) (19 years ago, 5-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
     
          Re: Suspend me as well (was Susp. of Chris and Terry) —Calum Tsang
       (...) Listen, I was really offended by your "Get Calum to leave rtlToronto and Win a Metroliner" contest! :) Calum (19 years ago, 5-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
     
          Re: Suspend me as well (was Susp. of Chris and Terry) —Kevin Wilson
      David Koudys wrote in message ... (...) an (...) at (...) Not "anything that happens on another website but pertains to someone who posts on LUGNET". This was specifically aimed at getting multiple people to harass someone (doesn't matter that it (...) (19 years ago, 5-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: Suspend me as well (was Susp. of Chris and Terry) —Ross Crawford
      (...) "Trying", yes. But the ToU cited does not mention anything about "trying". Nor should it. ROSCO (19 years ago, 5-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Suspend me as well (was Susp. of Chris and Terry) —Ross Crawford
      (...) Lenny, you don't seriously believe Chris violated that do you? Even if anyone WAS prepared to enter, it would be Larry, not Chris, not the entrant who would be making the decision to leave. Chris has not restricted Larry's use of the (...) (19 years ago, 5-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
     
          Re: Suspend me as well (was Susp. of Chris and Terry) —Leonard Hoffman
      (...) I've been trying to help everyone understand. But you're right - I shouldn't have been doing that. I made the decision, with other Admins, and I am comfortable with it. As I have stated several times, I believe Chris broke the ToU, and whether (...) (19 years ago, 5-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
     
          Re: Suspend me as well (was Susp. of Chris and Terry) —Ross Crawford
      (...) Now that's something different again. That means the ToU mean diddly squat, all that matters is the Admins' interpretation of them. So even if I agree to the ToU, I can still be suspended on the grounds that I broke the ToU, if the Admins all (...) (19 years ago, 5-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
    
         Re: Suspend me as well (was Susp. of Chris and Terry) —Kevin L. Clague
     (...) Leonard, The contest was created in a domain other than lugnet. You bring the topic to lugnet. In doing so, you forced it to be a "not only on this site" situation. Suddenly now the ToU applies to the contest. I still don't get that. I'll ask (...) (19 years ago, 5-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX) !! 
    
         Re: Suspend me as well (was Susp. of Chris and Terry) —Kevin L. Clague
      I responded in this post: (URL) I read and responded to this post: (URL) (19 years ago, 5-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
    
         Re: Suspend me as well (was Susp. of Chris and Terry) —Mark Papenfuss
      In lugnet.admin.general, Kevin L. Clague wrote: -snip great post- Kevin - awesome post. I just wish it was outside the Admin tree so all could see it when it was spotlighted. I hope we get some sort of REAL answer to your points. I think it was bad (...) (19 years ago, 5-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general) !! 
     
          Re: Suspend me as well (was Susp. of Chris and Terry) —Kevin L. Clague
      (...) Unfotunatly, given Leonard's post, it seems that all that we say here is irrelevent. (...) Todd has been a gentleman and addressed some of my issues, but I doubt very seriously that any of my questions regarding the justification of Chris' (...) (19 years ago, 5-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)  
     
          Re: Suspend me as well (was Susp. of Chris and Terry) —Ondrew Hartigan
      (...) I completely agree with the above statements as I have witnessed and experienced much of what Kevin spoke of. OnDrew . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (19 years ago, 6-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)  
    
         Re: Suspend me as well (was Susp. of Chris and Terry) —Tom Dickson
     (...) Wow! LUGNET is becoming more and more like a soap box opera every day! Soon I won't feel bad about not having cable anymore. Keep up the good work. (19 years ago, 6-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
   
        Re: Suspend me as well —C. L. GunningCook
   (...) Although not granted an actual suspension due to my protest I have limited my postings to .admin and have imposed a self suspension for all other groups on Lugnet, during this time I have greatly considered the intent of my actions. I (...) (19 years ago, 6-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
 

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