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Subject: 
formatting errors in FTX?? (wa Re: LSC Proposal 0.99a
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Tim Courtney wrote:

I like this draft a lot however there seem to be some word lossages here and
there... the tail end of some phrases are missing, and I think it may be due to
the FTX formatting???

for example:

On the screen I saw:

* Authored at least two LDraw parts subsequently released in an Official

but the ftx source code said

* Authored at least two LDraw parts subsequently released in an Official
LDraw.org Parts Update

Something is not quite right here. It's not a major loss because the original
text is there but it reads funny...

I'm switching to plain text in my post, and XFUT to admin.general which is where
I think ftx stuff goes. Admins, please go upthread to see what I am talking
about... either there's a bug or a misuse of formatting codes, or there is
something wrong with my browser or ?? But I don't think text should just
completely disappear.

Apologies for the block of gafla at the bottom. I want to cite the ENTIRE
ARTICLE and the quote percent filter is blocking me.

This is a re-post of the LSC proposal 0.99 with two changes:

* I removed the stipulation under 'voting' about the ad-hoc committee per
  <http://news.lugnet.com/cad/dev/org/ldraw/?n=2392&t=i&v=b this thread>.
* I changed the dates for voting from one day (July 20) to five days, July
  17-22. This covers both weekdays and a weekend, so it should maximize
  everyone's chances of being available to vote.

So, I'm reposting it as 0.99a. No revision marks this time, and no separate
HTML page on another server, but fancy new FTX :o)

-Tim

PS - I'm milling over the idea of the call for nominations and will get that
out hopefully soon. Plus more info on membership and voting, but that will
come a little later. Not too much, hopefully...¬ --

LDraw.org Standards Committee Proposal
======================================

Draft Version 0.99a¬
Written by: Tim Courtney¬
Contributors: Kevin Clague, Wayne Gramlich, Paul Gyugyi, Larry Pieniazek,
Orion Pobursky, Dan Boger¬
July 1, 2003

Preface
-------

This document specifies is a proposal for an LDraw Standards Committee,
presented for discussion and suggestions for improvements from the LDraw
community. Distribution of this memo is unlimited.


Overview
--------

Proposed is a Standards Committee to endorse and shape an Official LDraw.org
file format spec document, consisting of the original LDraw spec (0.2.7)
plus meta-commands developed by various LDraw-compatible LEGO CAD programs.
This group's participants will discuss, vote on, and adopt
community-developed commands as Official LDraw.org standards. The goal of
this body is to foster increased coordination and direction in our common
community effort to develop a better 3D LEGO file format. This proposal is
based on previous industry experience establishing standards bodies.


Background
----------

The LDraw community has existed as a minimally organized group of users,
programmers, and parts authors since James Jessiman's LDraw became widely
used in the mid 1990's. This community originated solely online and
continues to use the internet as it's primary medium of communication. LDraw
standards have until this point only been semi-organized as well, with
individual leaders in file format issues, but no defined processes for
format evolution. This has caused confusion among both newcomers and long
time participants, and the community recognizes the need for a group charged
with adopting official standards and publishing official documentation.


Detail
------

[Responsibilities of the Standards Committee]¬
The LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) will be responsible for maintaining
semi-regular internal discussions on pending file format issues, the overall
progress of the LDraw file format and new or proposed developments made by
different LDraw-based software authors. Initially, this group will be
responsible for developing their own internal procedures on how to process
and vote on proposals and how to write and publish documentation. The
Committee will also be responsible for updating the greater LDraw community
periodically of progress within the group. The Standards Committee will
adopt new official
standards by voting on them, and publish documentation on LDraw.org
following such a decision. The LSC will document past, current and future
LDraw File Formats.

[{Procedures}]¬
The procedures shall be determined by the initial membership of the LSC.
Items that shall be attended to are:

* Call for internal discussion on a proposal made internally (by another LSC
member) or externally (by a member of the LDraw Community)
* Request for Final Comments (RFC) from the community before a vote
* Call for a vote to ratify a proposal as standard
* Drafting, reviewing, and publishing spec documents
* Procedure for filling an early vacancy of a member
* Number of votes needed to accept a proposal as a standard
* Appointing sub-committees

[{Voting}]¬
Each LSC member can cast one (1) vote on any issue brought up within the LSC.

[{Membership}]¬
Membership of the LSC shall be limited to 5 people, unless LSC members vote
to create additional vacancies for a future election.

The LSC may also define a procedure for voting to eliminate seats added in
the future. The minimum number of seats on the LSC shall be 5.

[{Requirements for LSC Membership}]¬
To ensure only competent, dedicated, and active contributors are eligible to
become members of the LSC, they shall have met one or more of the following
requirements for nomination:

* Authored at least two LDraw parts subsequently released in an Official
LDraw.org Parts Update
* Served as a reviewer on the Parts Tracker through at least 2 official
parts updates, and posted at least 5 reviews in at least two updates since
their initial participation
* Authored a software program that is compliant with either the LDraw 0.2.7
spec or another spec published by the LSC
* Petition for nomination as an LSC candidate approved by 2 current LSC
  members
* Petition for nomination as an LSC candidate made to the LSC by at least 5
others eligible to be LSC candidates

[{LSC Discussion}]¬
The LSC shall have a mailing list or other communication method where only
members can post to, but the entire community can read. This allows the
community to keep tabs on what is being discussed, and discuss LSC issues in
public forums such as LUGNET's CAD.* groups. The LSC should encourage this
discussion, and should draw ideas and suggestions from non-LSC members in
the community, ensuring everyone's voice is heard. However, the LSC shall be
the only group that votes to ratify a proposal as a standard.

[{Annual Summary}]¬
The members of the LSC will be responsible for publishing an annual summary
to the community following elections for the next year's term. This document
must be published several weeks before elections, on the first of July of
that year. This summary shall outline the progress of the previous term,
note all versions of the spec ratified during the term, and summarize the
future goals and ideas of the current LSC members.


Determining LSC Membership
--------------------------

Members of the first LSC will be nominated and voted upon in the same manner
as in subsequent terms, with the exception that the first election shall be
overseen by the ad-hoc LDraw.org organizing committee and subsequent
elections shall be overseen by the then current LDraw.org governing body.

[Initial Charter]¬

The LSC will be chartered under the aegis of the overall LDraw.org.

The ad-hoc committee charged with organizing LDraw.org is responsible for
establishing a system for "LDraw.org Membership" in order to create a
legitimate group of voters. This membership will be open to anyone who wants
to declare themselves a member, provided they own a valid email address.
Information on this membership system will be posted to LDraw.org and
LUGNET. This membership will have the opportunity to ratify future
referendums on LDraw.org as presented by the ad-hoc committee or such
subsequent governing body as shall be determined or developed. The principle
of "one man, one vote" shall apply and any person determined to be using
multiple identities to secure multiple votes shall be banned from further
voting or membership. (We talk about membership/voting and organizational
details because they are necessary to carry out the first vote for LSC
members. Additional organizational details will be developed by the
organizing committee and are not properly the subject of this proposal.)


[Terms]¬
Terms on the Standards Committee shall last one year.

The ad-hoc LDraw.org committee will issue the first call for nominations to
the Standards Committee on July 1, 2003. Each subsequent call for nominations
will be issued on the first day of July of that year, and shall be issued by
the then current LDraw.org governing body. Nominations must be received and
recorded by the 15th of July. Elections will be held on the 20th of July.

[{Elections}]¬
The LDraw.org Members who are eligible for LSC membership will vote on the
nominees by privately listing the five (5) nominees they select for the
position. Votes will be received and tallied initially by the ad-hoc
committee (and subsequently by a permanent LDraw.org governing body), who
will be accountable to each other and to the community for accuracy. The 1st
LSC will consist of no more than 5 people, however the LSC will be able to
create vacant seats to be filled at a future election if they wish.

Current LDraw.org leadership will announce the results of the election
within 5 days of the election, on or before July 25.

[{Inauguration}]¬
Elected members of the LSC will take office on August 15. This gives
downtime between elections on July 20th for outgoing members and incoming
members to discuss the published Annual Report and ensure a smooth
transition.


Key Dates
---------

[Initial Charter]¬

~ {July 1, 2003}
~ Call for nominations for 1st LSC

~ {July _17-22_, 2003}
~ 1st LSC Election

~ {August 15, 2003}
~ 1st LSC Members take office

[Recurring Dates]¬

~ {July 1}
~ Annual Summary published¬
Call for nominations to the LSC

~ {July 15}
~ All nominations must be received and recorded

~ {July 20}
~ LSC Elections

~ {On or before July 25}
~ Ad-hoc organizing committee/permanent LDraw.org governing body announces
  election results

~ {August 15}
~ New LSC Members take office


Glossary
--------

[Ad-hoc LDraw.org Organizing Committee]¬

Jacob Sparre Andersen, Steve Bliss, Tim Courtney, Terry Keller, and
Community Advisor Larry Pieniazek. This group is responsible for forming a
charter organization for LDraw.org. (see:
http://news.lugnet.com/cad/dev/org/ldraw/?n=1183)

[LDraw.org Membership]¬

Defined, opt-in group of LDraw community participants who will have the
right to vote on resolutions put forward by the LDraw.org Leadership.

[LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC)]¬

Group of 5 parts authors, Parts Tracker reviewers, or LDraw-compatible
software authors elected by peers within the LDraw.org Membership to ratify
and publish the Official LDraw.org File Format Spec.

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  LSC Proposal 0.99a
 
This is a re-post of the LSC proposal 0.99 with two changes: I removed the stipulation under 'voting' about the ad-hoc committee per (URL) this thread>. I changed the dates for voting from one day (July 20) to five days, July 17-22. This covers both (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)

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