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  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) Why is it the job of the US to bring justice to the world? (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) Are you honestly trying to say that diplomacy is universally and always unsuccessful in all cases everywhere on the planet? That nothing has ever been accomplished by diplomacy? You may wish to modify your statement or at least limit its (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) Cuban Missle Crisis. Defused through diplomacy. Both sides got something they wanted. Perceptually Kruschev lost, and was deposed eventually because of it. -->Bruce<-- (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) Huh?? Defused through us blockading Cuba and threatening to go to war if the missiles weren't removed, then refusing to blink. That would be more like it, I would say. Diplomacy was only the communication channel, not the defuser. Oh, and (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) But we did blink, if not quite as hard and fast. That's the whole point. Both sides had escalated the confrontation to the point that neither saw a way out, but continuing it was too horrifying for words. Only through diplomacy was the (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) Shrub. Hmm. To you have "thickets" in the US? Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) Does Bush want diplomacy to work? Scott A (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) Of course it is. The implied threat of force in disputes of this nature is part of the diplomacy. It is not a simplistic, "Do as ah sez or I'll hurt youz real bad," - unless you are incompetent, that is, or simply bent on war ("Violence is the (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Petrucelli writes: <snip for later... so many things for later... there isn;t enuf time in the day!> (...) On this we totally agree! This is another thing I get into with my SO--she went to that quiet little rally in (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) <snip> (...) k, 2 things we agree on Dave K (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) I think it amy be in reference to a few things--the idiot in charge was replaced with, what was it, 4 other idiots? The 'Cartels', as it were? Are the Afgan folks any better off? They died during the 'military action' and now they have (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: <snip> (...) Yeah! Nuke 'em 'til the glow, then shoot 'em in the dark, and let God sort 'em out!! Rah Rah!! Go Team! Dave K (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) So I'm asking with all seriousness and no veil of ulterior motive--what do we do? Justice must prevail, if we are to hold to our own ideals. How do we achieve justice in this situation? Dave K (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) Well, my def'n of 'we' woudn't necessarily be "the US", for then it woudn't be we, as in me... but I digress... ;) I was thinking more along the lines of "if we (as in 'civilized society' whether it be the UN, or such other institution) see (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) Also, the Morrocan "affairs", in 1904 and 1907, between Germany and France. Things were *hot* back then (for the time standards, that is). Pedro (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) I have seen too many stupidly drunk people (mostly relatives) to even want to bother with alcohol. That and the smell of beer make me nauseous. (...) You know I think 99.9 percent of the time we all agree on the desired result, the (...) (22 years ago, 15-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) Fight this war now before our ill-equiped childeren have to do so. While we're sending our kids to dance lessons and soccer practice, they're having their kids bow down to hate americans and teaching pre-teens to fire automatic weapons. I'm (...) (22 years ago, 15-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) It is not, and since 12.09.02[1] there has been even less of a stomach for it. It is everyone’s "job" to bring justice to the world... at the micro and macro level. Invading Iraq is not "justice", nor is bribing other dictators in order to get (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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  Re: Assault on the Hacienda
 
Good lord! Horse Guards must be informed of such a slaughter -- I pity the next of His Majesty's Ships to visit that port seeking rest and resupply! Love the fort -- and the water texturing is excellent. Good number of decapitations, too -- gotta (...) (22 years ago, 27-Mar-03, to lugnet.pirates)
 

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  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) More on this: (URL) (22 years ago, 23-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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