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Hello all
You may believe it or not - I finally managed to finish work on my newest
webpage update. After more than a year, ‘Engineering with ABS’ features new MOCs
and new building hints.
So, what’s new in detail?
The first MOC I am proud to announce is a 1 / 28 scale model of the famous
Mountaineer, a stripping shovel built by the Marion Power Shovel Company in
1956. http://www.fhso.ch/~felber-b/mountain.htm This model is fully
functional: working hoist and crowd mechanism, swing drive, bottom dump bucket
and an elevator for the crew, passing the turntable. Read the full story under
the above mentioned link.
The second MOC is a Caterpillar D8 with Cable Operated Blade. It’s in the same
scale as the Mountaineer and was built to show the huge dimensions of stripping
shovels in reality. http://www.fhso.ch/~felber-b/catd8.htm
In the Building Hints section I added a page about sliding doors. This because I
developed a new construction first used on the Mountaineer.
http://www.fhso.ch/~felber-b/sdoors.htm
Finally, I slightly changed the overall layout of my homepage to increase
readability. Hope you like it.
So have a look at http://www.fhso.ch/~felber-b and let me know what you
think...
Greetings from Switzerland
Beat
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In lugnet.technic, Beat Felber wrote:
Wow! That is most excellent, the picture of yourself next to the model gives a
true perspective of the achievement here. Any chance of seeing some videos of it
working?
Jennifer
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Beat,
My first reaction: WOW!!
This really is a masterpiece and it is …. HUGE!
I just saw the images of the complete model, but now I’m scrolling through the
rest of it. And while I type this sentence I haven’t seen all jet. But I ask you
some questions when I see something.
If I’m right, the motors of the driving mechanism are shown
here.
How is it possible to drive the model? I mean, when it’s huge, it’s also very
heavy :) And why did you use belts?
The idea of using bearings for the turntable looks a well solution. I saw many
attempts. The only problems is your model has to be big to create enough room to
house it. The ring is very
smart by using Technic bricks :)
The interior is very well
detailed. Did you had any photos of it? I can imagine it’s hard to find any info
about such machinery, but while you very into mining equipment you may have your
contacts. I always like it when people put a lot of time in the inside of a
model. Most times they only pay attention to the exterior. Then a model a model
isn’t finished is my opinion. I also saw you used a
large gear. I guess it’s
quite an old piece. Hopefully I can find some on Bricklink while I’ve plans to
build a Menck M154. I didn’t knew such pieces exist. Thanks for showing it :)
On such a huge model you can use the
motor cycle wheels. It’s
only a shame they’re white, but does it bother it anyway? The idea of the end
fittings of the ropes is well found!
The mast looks very sturdy. When the gantry is rather high placed it shouldn’t
be any problem to luff it. Very nice to show on modelshows!! (any idea of
showning it and demonstrate it during the Modelshow Europe???).
Or this the large gear
non-LEGO?!?!? Haven’t seen those white ones before neither :(
The decals looks very
professional. Did you made them yourself?
It’s amazing! It’s huge! It’s one of a kind! No-one has something like this! I
always like seeying models which are very complex to build.
And the old-style CAT looks very well!
I just send the link to the people of the HHCMC. I’m the
treasurer of the club. Four times a year we make our own club magazine. Because
the club exist 10 years next year, someone had the idea to make four ‘specials’.
One of those specials will be a ‘LEGO special’. Because your model is so
special, I would like to know you would like to cooperate. If other enthausiast
has some very interesting heavy equipment built of LEGO and they like the idea
as well, just send me an e-mail. Maybe Jennifer would like to see her DEMAG in
our magazine? Everyone liked it during the Modelshow Europe. So Beat, just let
me know if you would like to visit the show :)
Dennis Bosman
In lugnet.technic, Beat Felber wrote:
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Hello all
You may believe it or not - I finally managed to finish work on my newest
webpage update. After more than a year, ‘Engineering with ABS’ features new
MOCs and new building hints.
So, what’s new in detail?
The first MOC I am proud to announce is a 1 / 28 scale model of the famous
Mountaineer, a stripping shovel built by the Marion Power Shovel Company in
1956. http://www.fhso.ch/~felber-b/mountain.htm This model is fully
functional: working hoist and crowd mechanism, swing drive, bottom dump
bucket and an elevator for the crew, passing the turntable. Read the full
story under the above mentioned link.
The second MOC is a Caterpillar D8 with Cable Operated Blade. It’s in the
same scale as the Mountaineer and was built to show the huge dimensions of
stripping shovels in reality. http://www.fhso.ch/~felber-b/catd8.htm
In the Building Hints section I added a page about sliding doors. This
because I developed a new construction first used on the Mountaineer.
http://www.fhso.ch/~felber-b/sdoors.htm
Finally, I slightly changed the overall layout of my homepage to increase
readability. Hope you like it.
So have a look at http://www.fhso.ch/~felber-b and let me know what you
think...
Greetings from Switzerland
Beat
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Jennifer,
No, I would like to invite him for the next edition of the
Modelshow Europe!!!
Just tell him it’s a show you can’t miss!! Then we can see his model in
real-life!
You don’t have a hobby just for yourself, you have to share it with thousands of
others!!
Dennis Bosman
In lugnet.technic, Jennifer Clark wrote:
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In lugnet.technic, Beat Felber wrote:
Wow! That is most excellent, the picture of yourself next to the model gives
a true perspective of the achievement here. Any chance of seeing some videos
of it working?
Jennifer
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In lugnet.technic, Beat Felber wrote:
Beat,
Thank you for the idea! I can use it for my Menck M154 in progress!
I’m really in the mood to start building the machine after reading you story!
Dennis Bosman
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In lugnet.technic, Jennifer Clark wrote:
Hi Jennifer
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Any chance of seeing some videos of it working?
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Well, when I took the model outside the house to take pictures, my neighbor came
over to see it and brought along his digital camcorder. Therefore some videos
exist but unfortunately they are so small and short that you hardly can see
anything of the mechanisms involved in the motions. All you can see is about a
quarter revolution of the upper structure, opening the bucket door and then
lowering the stick.
If you still should be interested in the videos, let me know (preferably by
mail) where I can send them to. Each of them is about 6 Mb I guess. Five were
made but only two or three of them show some movements.
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In lugnet.technic, Dennis Bosman wrote:
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If I’m right, the motors of the driving mechanism are shown
here.
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No, the motor shown here drives the steering mechanism. The drive motors are
mounted on the bottom side of the main frame of the lower structure. There’s a
motor for each crawler pair. Have a look at these two pictures:
http://www.fhso.ch/~felber-b/pictures/mount09b.jpg
http://www.fhso.ch/~felber-b/pictures/mount10b.jpg The drive assemblies can be
seen on both of them.
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How is it possible to drive the model? I mean, when it’s huge, it’s also very
heavy :) And why did you use belts?
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The belts I always use in the first stage of the geartrain. There the momentum
is still small enough that rubber belts are able to transfer it. But with these
high speeds delivered by the motor, gears often transform themeselves into a lot
of grey dust if they don’t engage absolutely perfect, means if there is a slight
difference in the angle of the two axles relative to each other. This is why I
use rubber belts. But as mentioned above, the picture shows the steering
mechanism. The finished model could not move under its own power because it was
just simply too heavy. Read more about this and other problems I encountered
during construction in the story on my homepage.
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The interior is very
well detailed. Did you had any photos of it? I can imagine it’s hard to find
any info about such machinery, but while you very into mining equipment you
may have your contacts. I always like it when people put a lot of time in the
inside of a model. Most times they only pay attention to the exterior. Then a
model a model isn’t finished is my opinion.
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It is my opinion as well. A model in this scale really has to have a detailed
interior. Unfortunately I didn’t have any good pics of the inner works of the
real Mountaineer. Therefore I had to guess what lies under the elevated gallery
at the back end of the machinery house or on which side lies the door that leads
to the elevator cabin. All I knew was the general layout of Marion stripping
shovel machinery houses.
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I also saw you used a
large gear. I guess it’s
quite an old piece. Hopefully I can find some on Bricklink while I’ve plans
to build a Menck M154. I didn’t knew such pieces exist. Thanks for showing it
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Well, I first saw these gears when I received a huge collection of old gears
(the red, blue and yellow ones that go togheter with the old chain links with
two studs on each link) I exchanged for some old 12V train stuff. I then found
out that these gears are called Samsonite gears and seemed only to be available
in the US. In Europe the above mentioned three sizes of gears were available.
The Samsonite gears include the small white ones, some bigger yellow ones, blue
ones and the 42 tooth red ones, used on my model. I only have two of the red
ones and five of the white ones of which four were used on the Mountaineer.
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On such a huge model you can use the
motor cycle wheels. It’s
only a shame they’re white, but does it bother it anyway? The idea of the end
fittings of the ropes is well found!
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I already used this solution on my early mining shovel
http://www.fhso.ch/~felber-b/shovel1.htm and on the P&H 4100TS
http://www.fhso.ch/~felber-b/shovel2.htm (they can’t be seen on the pictures)
as well as on the Bucyrus Erie 1050B http://www.fhso.ch/~felber-b/shovel3.htm
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The mast looks very sturdy. When the gantry is rather high placed it
shouldn’t be any problem to luff it. Very nice to show on modelshows!! (any
idea of showning it and demonstrate it during the
Modelshow Europe???).
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I really don’t dare to tell, but the Mountaineer doesn’t exist any more. After I
took it outside the house to take some pictures I didn’t wanted to take it all
the way back - there were several stairways - so I brought it in the cellar
where only three steps of a stair were to be descended. There it met its fate -
I disassembled it and therefore was able to determine the weight of 26.7 kg of
LEGO parts and 2.6 kg of counterweight, resulting in an overall model weight of
29.3 kg.
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The decals looks very
professional. Did you made them yourself?
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Yes, I did. I designed them after pictures of the real machine on a desktop
publishing program, printed them onto quality paper, cut them out and then glued
them with rubber cement onto the model. Rubber cement doesn’t hurt ABS and
allows to move the decals while the glue hasn’t dried.
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I just send the link to the people of the HHCMC. I’m
the treasurer of the club. Four times a year we make our own club magazine.
Because the club exist 10 years next year, someone had the idea to make four
‘specials’. One of those specials will be a ‘LEGO special’. Because your
model is so special, I would like to know you would like to cooperate. If
other enthausiast has some very interesting heavy equipment built of LEGO and
they like the idea as well, just send me an e-mail. Maybe Jennifer would like
to see her DEMAG in our magazine? Everyone liked it during the Modelshow
Europe. So Beat, just let me know if you would like to visit the show :)
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Dennis, let me assure you that I really would like to have my Mountaineer
featured in a printed publication. It is a model I am really proud of and
therefore I am willing to share its details with everybody seriously interested
in it. I propose you send me a mail when you will have detailed information
about the magazine and I will help you with providing pictures and descriptions.
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In lugnet.technic, Dennis Bosman wrote:
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Or this the large gear
non-LEGO?!?!? Haven’t seen those white ones before neither :(
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Yes, indeed they are LEGO Dennis - old samsonite gears, you can see them
here, I think the ones
Beat used are 741 and 744.
ROSCO
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On such a huge model you can use the
motor cycle wheels. It’s
only a shame they’re white, but does it bother it anyway? The idea of the end
fittings of the ropes is well found!
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They do exist in dark red, thanks to SW set
10019 that contains eleven of them...
and they are cheaper on
Bricklink !
Philo
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"Dennis Bosman" <dennisbosman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:HJxKBG.4LA@lugnet.com...
> Jennifer,
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> No, I would like to invite him for the next edition of the
> <http://www.modelshow-europe.com Modelshow Europe>!!!
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> Just tell him it's a show you can't miss!! Then we can see his model in
> real-life!
Too right, it was a great show, literally thousands of visitors - any idea
how many?
> You don't have a hobby just for yourself, you have to share it with • thousands of
> others!!
It is like when you were young and you pestered all the visitors to your
house to look at your latest lego model :-)
Jennifer
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In lugnet.technic, Jennifer Clark wrote:
> Too right, it was a great show, literally thousands of visitors - any idea
> how many?
More than 3.000 they wrote. Most of them are employable in this field, so
they're farmiliar with machinery.
Dennis
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In lugnet.technic, Beat Felber wrote:
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I really don’t dare to tell, but the Mountaineer doesn’t exist any more.
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What?!?!?! Your kidding, right?
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After I took it outside the house to take some pictures I didn’t wanted to
take it all the way back - there were several stairways - so I brought it in
the cellar where only three steps of a stair were to be descended. There it
met its fate - I disassembled it and therefore was able to determine the
weight of 26.7 kg of LEGO parts and 2.6 kg of counterweight, resulting in an
overall model weight of 29.3 kg.
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I know the problem. The size of your model is really shown on the picture with
you behind it. It’s unbelievable how many kilos of LEGO bricks you put into it.
It takes a lot of time to bring everything downstairs. And you have to do it
very carefully. Taking it upstairs is less fun, I know it from my experience
when I’m ariving back home after a modelshow or photo session. It’s a shame you
took it apart. Hopefully you’re working on something new.
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Dennis, let me assure you that I really would like to have my Mountaineer
featured in a printed publication. It is a model I am really proud of and
therefore I am willing to share its details with everybody seriously
interested in it. I propose you send me a mail when you will have detailed
information about the magazine and I will help you with providing pictures
and descriptions.
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The committee asked me to contact some LEGO enthusiastics which have built some
astonishing models like you did. I have some friends in Holland which I haven’t
contact yet about it, but they will cooperate for sore. It will also be nice to
reach some ‘foreigners’. Maybe Jennifer and TJ would also like to send some
clear pictures and descriptions for the magazine. I can ask for an English
version and scan some pages to show them on the internet.
When there’s enough response and the committee really bring out some specials, I
will let you know via Lugnet.
Dennis
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And can they be used together with the old 2 studs links?
Dennis
In lugnet.technic, Ross Crawford wrote:
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In lugnet.technic, Dennis Bosman wrote:
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Or this the large gear
non-LEGO?!?!? Haven’t seen those white ones before neither :(
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Yes, indeed they are LEGO Dennis - old samsonite gears, you can see them
here, I think the ones
Beat used are 741 and 744.
ROSCO
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And can they be used together with the old 2 studs links?
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No, unfortunately not. The tooth spacing on those Samsonite gears is different
from the European red, blue and yellow ones. But what made them so interesting
for me is the fact that they have studs on top. So I was able to connect the
hoist drum directly to the gear.
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The committee asked me to contact some LEGO enthusiastics which have built
some astonishing models like you did. I have some friends in Holland which I
haven’t contact yet about it, but they will cooperate for sore. It will also
be nice to reach some ‘foreigners’. Maybe Jennifer and TJ would also like to
send some clear pictures and descriptions for the magazine. I can ask for an
English version and scan some pages to show them on the internet.
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Sounds like sort of a hall of fame of the most interesting LEGO creations from
the machinery and trucks sector.
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When there’s enough response and the committee really bring out some
specials, I will let you know via Lugnet.
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OK, I’m sure I’ll read it.
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In lugnet.technic, Beat Felber wrote:
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And can they be used together with the old 2 studs links?
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No, unfortunately not. The tooth spacing on those Samsonite gears is
different from the European red, blue and yellow ones. But what made them so
interesting for me is the fact that they have studs on top. So I was able to
connect the hoist drum directly to the gear.
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That’s a big shame. Namely, I’ve plans to build a scale 1:13 Sennebogen 5500HDSL
(Mammoet) and therefore I’ve some ideas for different crawler tracks. I ordered
lots of those old links. Even when I still didn’t knew which shaves I will use
at the front and the end. When I saw those large Samsonite gears I was wondering
if they compare to the European ones. They’re not as you wrote :( Everything
what’s produced in the States is different than in Europe. E.G. the electricity,
trucks etc. :( :(
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Hi there Beat!
Congratulations on a job *very* well done!
When it comes to stripping shovels no one can beat Beat! That's for sure!
I really appreciate all the effort that obviously has gone into making this
excellent model. All the photos and the text really add a lot to the experience
too!
I would love to see those videos, so if you want you can e-mail them to me. Then
I can put them onto my domain for all to download if file-size is a problem for
you.
--
Best regards,
/Tobbe
<http://www.lotek.nu>
(remove SPAM when e-mailing)
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Hi Tobbe
First I would like to thank you for your compliments.
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I would love to see those videos, so if you want you can e-mail them to me.
Then I can put them onto my domain for all to download if file-size is a
problem for you.
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Well, file size is not a problem. The videos are online for several days now. I
uploaded them to brickshelf but the folder still is not yet public. I don’t know
why, but there seems to be a problem with those files.
Anyway, you can download them via these two deep links. But don’t be
disappointed - they are bad quality.
video 1
video 2
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Well, file size is not a problem. The videos are online for several days now.
I uploaded them to brickshelf but the folder still is not yet public. I don’t
know why, but there seems to be a problem with those files.
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Odd.
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Anyway, you can download them via these two deep links. But don’t be
disappointed - they are bad quality.
video
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Nothing bad with the quality with this one, perhaps a little unfocused and a
case of slightly bad compression. It’s 29 seconds and 3 127 kB. It shows the
scoop rise and a swivel of the whole thing. Amazing how fast it spins around
it’s own axis. I would not have guessed that.
Nothing wrong with this either, 3 128 kB. Another swivel and opening of the
scoop.
I love to see a good MOC come to life like that!
Thanks!
/Tobbe
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In lugnet.technic, Beat Felber wrote:
> Hello all
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> You may believe it or not - I finally managed to finish work on my newest
> webpage update. After more than a year, 'Engineering with ABS' features new
> MOCs and new building hints.
<snip>
Wow! Spectacular. I wish I could be there in person to see it with my own eyes.
Very impressive! Your pictures are excellent as well.
I was out this past week on vacation, and it was a nice surprise to come back
and see your site update. Very well done.
Best,
TJ
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In lugnet.technic, Beat Felber wrote:
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Hi Tobbe
First I would like to thank you for your compliments.
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I would love to see those videos, so if you want you can e-mail them to me.
Then I can put them onto my domain for all to download if file-size is a
problem for you.
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Well, file size is not a problem. The videos are online for several days now.
I uploaded them to brickshelf but the folder still is not yet public. I don’t
know why, but there seems to be a problem with those files.
Anyway, you can download them via these two deep links. But don’t be
disappointed - they are bad quality.
video
1
video
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Hi Beat,
The quality doesn’t matter. It gives you a good impression how it works.
Besides, the pictures at your website are very clear!
It’s great to see you managed making a well working revolution of the
superstructure. Many people have problems with making a drive for a turntable.
Well done!
Recently I made some videos of my MAN tipper truck and Liebherr A904 excavator.
I’m now busy with making the English translation, so soon I will show everything
on my site. Those movies are as bad as yours. But it’s nice to show the models
really works!
Dennis
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How could you destroy a work of art like this Beat? It’s like restoring a 1969
RS Camaro and then stripping it down to restore a 1969 Z-28 Camaro. I’m sure the
Lego parts must have cost a small fortune to build such a huge sculpture. I
really wish that you and Dennis would keep your models intact and just buy more
Lego.
Todd
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In lugnet.technic, Todd A. Schroeder wrote:
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How could you destroy a work of art like this Beat? It’s like restoring a
1969 RS Camaro and then stripping it down to restore a 1969 Z-28 Camaro. I’m
sure the Lego parts must have cost a small fortune to build such a huge
sculpture. I really wish that you and Dennis would keep your models intact
and just buy more Lego.
Todd
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Well Todd,
That cost a lot of money.
Anyway, I still have five models in tact and I can build a 6th one if I want.
Beat used thousand of pieces so if he has to build something new, he has to
break off the machinery unfortunately.
Dennis
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Well Todd,
That cost a lot of money.
Anyway, I still have five models in tact and I can build a 6th one if I want.
Beat used thousand of pieces so if he has to build something new, he has to
break off the machinery unfortunately.
Dennis
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Yes, I know how that is. I’ve got 5 projects started with more planned. I
haven’t completed any of them due to lack of money and time. However, once I
complete my creations I will never destroy them. I may modify them to improve
upon them but never destroy them.
Todd
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It seems the real machine
crashed.
I don’t know what was happened with the machine after the crash.
Dennis
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In lugnet.technic, Dennis Bosman wrote:
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It seems the real machine
crashed.
I don’t know what was happened with the machine after the crash.
Dennis
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Darn! that things wrecked. My guess is that it’ll be scrapped where it lies.
I was just reading a website the other day about this machine crossing over a
road to get to a new site.
Slowly rolling over like that reminds me of one of my Lego creations. More
details on that later.
Steve
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Well, the machine pictured is not the one I built my model after. My model is a
scaled down copy of the Marion type 5760 stripping shovel called ‘The
Mountaineer’. There were five type 5760 built, with ‘The Mountaineer’ being the
first. Two other famous shovels were called ‘Coal Chief’ and ‘Big Paul’
respectively.
The machine pictured is a type 5761, the successor of the 5760. As far as I
remember, sixteen machines of the type 5761 were built.
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I don’t know what was happened with the machine after the crash.
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It was decided to scrap the machine because it would have been too complicated
to erect it again :-(
Greetings from Switzerland
Beat
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