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In lugnet.announce.brickshelf, Kevin Loch writes:
> After seeing how popular the gallery section is at Brickshelf, I wondered
> how other people could display their work. The solution is to allow
> users to create accounts and upload it themselves!
>
> After about a week and a half of coding, and a day or two of alpha
> testing, I am pleased to announce that the BrickShelf.com Gallery is now
> open to the public.
>
> Feel free to upload (host) your MOC or other pictures of interest to
> the LEGO fan community:
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi
>
> Keep in mind that this is still buggy beta code, and anything can break.
> Also note that only the most essential features are in place now, and
> many, many features will be added soon.
>
> Note:
>
> when linkinking to your folders, you can specify the path or
> the cgi arguments.
>
> for example:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/kl/Campus/
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin?f=42
> both go to the same place.
Oops, that should have been
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=42
KL
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In lugnet.publish, Kevin Loch writes:
> In lugnet.announce.brickshelf, Kevin Loch writes:
> > After seeing how popular the gallery section is at Brickshelf, I wondered
> > how other people could display their work. The solution is to allow
> > users to create accounts and upload it themselves!
Cool.
What are your ToS?
That is...
How will you enforce against people uploading non Lego stuff?
How will you enforce against (or do you care about) people using it as a site
to host auction listing support pictures, etc?
(I haven't went and looked, maybe you have a FAQ that addresses this all...)
This is really swell! Thanks
++Lar
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In lugnet.publish, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> What are your ToS?
http://www.brickshelf.com/terms.html
> That is...
>
> How will you enforce against people uploading non Lego stuff?
several "moderators" with the delete function.
> How will you enforce against (or do you care about) people using it as a site
> to host auction listing support pictures, etc?
I would encourage people to use it as an auction support site, as long
as the content doesn't violate the TOS.
>
> (I haven't went and looked, maybe you have a FAQ that addresses this all...)
>
> This is really swell! Thanks
>
> ++Lar
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In lugnet.publish, Kevin Loch writes:
> In lugnet.publish, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > How will you enforce against people uploading non Lego stuff?
>
> several "moderators" with the delete function.
What is your stance on Lego clone instruction scans?
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In lugnet.publish, Tony Kilaras writes:
>
> What is your stance on Lego clone instruction scans?
That would definately be off-topic. In fact I'd prefer
that people not upload complete instruction or catalog scans
of any type to the gallery. Those should be submitted to the
scan section (note that there are different terms covering the gallery and
the scan sections).
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In lugnet.publish, Kevin Loch writes:
> In lugnet.publish, Tony Kilaras writes:
> >
> > What is your stance on Lego clone instruction scans?
>
> That would definately be off-topic. In fact I'd prefer
> that people not upload complete instruction or catalog scans
> of any type to the gallery. Those should be submitted to the
> scan section (note that there are different terms covering the gallery and
> the scan sections).
I should clarify that excerpts from (LEGO) instructions and catalogs
would be fine (example: for auction support), just not complete versions
(like in the scans section).
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In lugnet.publish, Kevin Loch writes:
> In lugnet.publish, Kevin Loch writes:
> > In lugnet.publish, Tony Kilaras writes:
> > >
> > > What is your stance on Lego clone instruction scans?
> >
> > That would definately be off-topic. In fact I'd prefer
> > that people not upload complete instruction or catalog scans
> > of any type to the gallery. Those should be submitted to the
> > scan section (note that there are different terms covering the gallery and
> > the scan sections).
>
> I should clarify that excerpts from (LEGO) instructions and catalogs
> would be fine (example: for auction support), just not complete versions
> (like in the scans section).
Also, if there is enough interest (and the system works well) I might
set up a different website for more general use (or at least many
other specific topics).
KL
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In lugnet.publish, Kevin Loch writes:
> In lugnet.publish, Kevin Loch writes:
> > In lugnet.publish, Kevin Loch writes:
> > > In lugnet.publish, Tony Kilaras writes:
> > > >
> > > > What is your stance on Lego clone instruction scans?
> > >
> > > That would definately be off-topic. In fact I'd prefer
> > > that people not upload complete instruction or catalog scans
> > > of any type to the gallery. Those should be submitted to the
> > > scan section (note that there are different terms covering the gallery and
> > > the scan sections).
> >
> > I should clarify that excerpts from (LEGO) instructions and catalogs
> > would be fine (example: for auction support), just not complete versions
> > (like in the scans section).
>
> Also, if there is enough interest (and the system works well) I might
> set up a different website for more general use (or at least many
> other specific topics).
I would love to have an area devoted to clone instructions. Most of the Tyco
sets are worthy of inclusion as well as some of the Ritvik sets.
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Tony Kilaras wrote:
>
> In lugnet.publish, Kevin Loch writes:
> > In lugnet.publish, Kevin Loch writes:
> > > In lugnet.publish, Kevin Loch writes:
> > > > In lugnet.publish, Tony Kilaras writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > What is your stance on Lego clone instruction scans?
> > > >
> > > > That would definately be off-topic. In fact I'd prefer
> > > > that people not upload complete instruction or catalog scans
> > > > of any type to the gallery. Those should be submitted to the
> > > > scan section (note that there are different terms covering the gallery and
> > > > the scan sections).
> > >
> > > I should clarify that excerpts from (LEGO) instructions and catalogs
> > > would be fine (example: for auction support), just not complete versions
> > > (like in the scans section).
> >
> > Also, if there is enough interest (and the system works well) I might
> > set up a different website for more general use (or at least many
> > other specific topics).
>
> I would love to have an area devoted to clone instructions. Most of the Tyco
> sets are worthy of inclusion as well as some of the Ritvik sets.
Note that before anyone goes publishing clone scans, we need to
determine the various clone's IP policies. TLC has given guidance in
this area which seems to allow the scans. This policy can NOT be assumed
to be a default for other companies.
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Frank Filz
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Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 18:53:01 GMT, "Kevin Loch" <kloch@opnsys.com>
wrote:
> > How will you enforce against (or do you care about) people using it as a site
> > to host auction listing support pictures, etc?
>
> I would encourage people to use it as an auction support site, as long
> as the content doesn't violate the TOS.
Wow, that's incredibly generous of you. I'll be making use of that
service, as long as it is ok with you.
A small suggestion. I think a link to the TOS on the member listing
page, or maybe in the little menu "area" line would be helpful. I
know I'll want to check it from time to time, and finding it only in
the new user sign-up page is a little unintuitive.
GREAT JOB!
--
The parts you want and nothing else?
http://jaba.dtrh.com/ - Just Another Brick Auction
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In lugnet.publish, Mike Stanley writes:
> Wow, that's incredibly generous of you. I'll be making use of that
> service, as long as it is ok with you.
It's all relative. So far the Ebay links have been such a tiny
percentage of the overall traffic, it's lost in the noise.
Even if it becomes a large load, that's good too because it means
there is alot of good content on the site.
KL
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:55:37 GMT, "Kevin Loch" <kloch@opnsys.com>
wrote:
> In lugnet.publish, Mike Stanley writes:
> > Wow, that's incredibly generous of you. I'll be making use of that
> > service, as long as it is ok with you.
>
> It's all relative. So far the Ebay links have been such a tiny
> percentage of the overall traffic, it's lost in the noise.
> Even if it becomes a large load, that's good too because it means
> there is alot of good content on the site.
Ok, just so I'm clear, what sort of links are "ok" with you? The kind
that Todd doesn't allow, linking directly to the image itself and
displaying it on the auction page? Or do you want links to the page
in the gallery?
--
The parts you want and nothing else?
http://jaba.dtrh.com/ - Just Another Brick Auction
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In lugnet.publish, Mike Stanley writes:
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:55:37 GMT, "Kevin Loch" <kloch@opnsys.com>
> wrote:
>
> > In lugnet.publish, Mike Stanley writes:
> > > Wow, that's incredibly generous of you. I'll be making use of that
> > > service, as long as it is ok with you.
> >
> > It's all relative. So far the Ebay links have been such a tiny
> > percentage of the overall traffic, it's lost in the noise.
> > Even if it becomes a large load, that's good too because it means
> > there is alot of good content on the site.
>
> Ok, just so I'm clear, what sort of links are "ok" with you? The kind
> that Todd doesn't allow, linking directly to the image itself and
> displaying it on the auction page? Or do you want links to the page
> in the gallery?
Currently the policy is that drect links to images are ok.
KL
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Kevin, what drives the order of images in a particular folder? Right
now it seems to be alpha.
It looks like images themselves are all assigned a unique numeric key,
with a record of the folder they are in... because an image URL page
seems to be of the form:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=786
(that's Fredrik's great Lemans)
while folders have the form:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=100
suggesting that they as well have unique numeric keys and you are
keeping what images go in what folders and what their names are, etc,
elsewhere.
Given that, is it possible to:
- specify image order within a folder other than by using the name?
- supply a prev and next URL on each image page?
or is that very very hard. Both seem like they'd be nice enhancements
(the second more so than the first)
Finally, it says beta, I assume that if something goes awry you may have
to turn off access but should be able to rebuild without requiring
everyone to reupload everything, right?
Kevin Loch wrote:
>
> In lugnet.announce.brickshelf, Kevin Loch writes:
> > After seeing how popular the gallery section is at Brickshelf, I wondered
> > how other people could display their work. The solution is to allow
> > users to create accounts and upload it themselves!
--
Larry Pieniazek - lpieniazek@mercator.com - http://my.voyager.net/lar
http://www.mercator.com. Mercator, the e-business transformation company
fund Lugnet(tm): http://www.ebates.com/ ref: lar, 1/2 $$ to lugnet.
Note: this is a family forum!
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In lugnet.publish, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> Kevin, what drives the order of images in a particular folder? Right
> now it seems to be alpha.
True.
>
> suggesting that they as well have unique numeric keys and you are
> keeping what images go in what folders and what their names are, etc,
> elsewhere.
True, the site runs off a database but...
The files are stored in a directory structure of
/gallery/username/folder/folder/image.jpg
which is why you can access the images directly using that path.
> Given that, is it possible to:
> - specify image order within a folder other than by using the name?
If the user wants to specify an arbitrary order, I would need to add
a sort_order field to the files table. That's a bit of work but not
impossible.
> - supply a prev and next URL on each image page?
That is easy and is very high on the priority list.
>
> Finally, it says beta, I assume that if something goes awry you may have
> to turn off access but should be able to rebuild without requiring
> everyone to reupload everything, right?
>
>
It depends on what goes awry... If the database get's hosed, I could restore
a recent backup and force a "reload" command in each folder (which syncs
the db to the files, just as when you upload new files).
(I'm not storing all the images in one folder
with names like x983347473crffeedf.jpg if that's what you mean).
KL
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Some more enhancement requests.
1. stats. Can you tell me how many folders and how many images are on
file for each person while I am looking at the list of all the people?
This way I can tell whether it's worth snooping into someone's folders
to see if something is in there. I've snooped into 1/2 dozen folders and
came up dry, which is slow and boring.
2. hotlist. Can you tell me which images are being viewed the most?
3. recently created list. Can you tell me what's new? For a browser this
would save a LOT of time...
Stuff to think about. Thanks bunches, as always.
--
Larry Pieniazek - lpieniazek@mercator.com - http://my.voyager.net/lar
http://www.mercator.com. Mercator, the e-business transformation company
fund Lugnet(tm): http://www.ebates.com/ ref: lar, 1/2 $$ to lugnet.
Note: this is a family forum!
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In lugnet.publish, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> Some more enhancement requests.
>
> 1. stats. Can you tell me how many folders and how many images are on
> file for each person while I am looking at the list of all the people?
> This way I can tell whether it's worth snooping into someone's folders
> to see if something is in there. I've snooped into 1/2 dozen folders and
> came up dry, which is slow and boring.
>
> 2. hotlist. Can you tell me which images are being viewed the most?
>
> 3. recently created list. Can you tell me what's new? For a browser this
> would save a LOT of time...
>
> Stuff to think about. Thanks bunches, as always.
The recently updated folders display will come right after the edit image
option (i.e. real soon).
The hotlist is a good idea. Statistics in general are interesting, but will
probably be pulled from the logs, to avoid database writes on each page view.
KL
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Kevin Loch wrote:
> > when linkinking to your folders, you can specify the path or
> > the cgi arguments.
> >
> > for example:
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/kl/Campus/
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin?f=42
> > both go to the same place.
>
> Oops, that should have been
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=42
The path version doesn't seem to work anymore. I've been slowly
categorizing web pages, and would like to be able to point to reasonably
specific pages, which won't be too changeable, so the number reference
doesn't seem ideal since it can change.
--
Frank Filz
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Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com
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On Thu, 2 Mar 2000 16:26:14 GMT Frank Filz <ffilz@mindspring.com> wrote
concerning 'Re: Announcing Brickshelf.com Gallery for everyone!':
> Kevin Loch wrote:
> > > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/kl/Campus/
>
> The path version doesn't seem to work anymore. I've been slowly
> categorizing web pages, and would like to be able to point to reasonably
> specific pages, which won't be too changeable, so the number reference
> doesn't seem ideal since it can change.
doesn't work?
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/zigdon/wamalug
Dan
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In lugnet.publish, Dan Boger writes:
> On Thu, 2 Mar 2000 16:26:14 GMT Frank Filz <ffilz@mindspring.com> wrote
> concerning 'Re: Announcing Brickshelf.com Gallery for everyone!':
> > Kevin Loch wrote:
> > > > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/kl/Campus/
> >
> > The path version doesn't seem to work anymore. I've been slowly
> > categorizing web pages, and would like to be able to point to reasonably
> > specific pages, which won't be too changeable, so the number reference
> > doesn't seem ideal since it can change.
>
> doesn't work?
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/zigdon/wamalug
Of course not. You made a typo:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/zigdon/Wamalug
should work
KL
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Kevin Loch wrote:
>
> In lugnet.publish, Dan Boger writes:
> > On Thu, 2 Mar 2000 16:26:14 GMT Frank Filz <ffilz@mindspring.com> wrote
> > concerning 'Re: Announcing Brickshelf.com Gallery for everyone!':
> > > Kevin Loch wrote:
> > > > > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/kl/Campus/
> > >
> > > The path version doesn't seem to work anymore. I've been slowly
> > > categorizing web pages, and would like to be able to point to reasonably
> > > specific pages, which won't be too changeable, so the number reference
> > > doesn't seem ideal since it can change.
> >
> > doesn't work?
> >
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/zigdon/wamalug
>
> Of course not. You made a typo:
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/zigdon/Wamalug
Ah, I think I see why it doesn't work, it doesn't work if Javascript
isn't enabled. Can you fix that? All you're doing in the Javascript is a
re-direct.
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Frank Filz
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Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com
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In lugnet.publish, Frank Filz writes:
> Kevin Loch wrote:
> Ah, I think I see why it doesn't work, it doesn't work if Javascript
> isn't enabled. Can you fix that? All you're doing in the Javascript is a
> re-direct.
Yes, the site uses javascript redirects in several places.
I'm not sure I can do it with mod-rewrite but I'll look into it.
KL
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Kevin Loch wrote:
>
> In lugnet.publish, Frank Filz writes:
> > Kevin Loch wrote:
> > Ah, I think I see why it doesn't work, it doesn't work if Javascript
> > isn't enabled. Can you fix that? All you're doing in the Javascript is a
> > re-direct.
>
> Yes, the site uses javascript redirects in several places.
>
> I'm not sure I can do it with mod-rewrite but I'll look into it.
I'm not sure what mod-rewrite is, but couldn't you use something like:
<META HTTP-EQUIV="refresh" CONTENT="3; url=Lego.html">
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Frank Filz
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Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com
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In lugnet.publish, Frank Filz writes:
> Kevin Loch wrote:
> > > when linkinking to your folders, you can specify the path or
> > > the cgi arguments.
> > >
> > > for example:
> > > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/kl/Campus/
The path version does still work. I haven't changed that.
KL
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