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In lugnet.general, Thomas Main wrote:
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In lugnet.general, C. L. GunningCook wrote:
...a lot of good stuff worth considering
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That is a very interesting little image you have there. Why did you make it?
What is the message you are trying to send?
On a broader note, I have heard a lot about mistrust between Ambassadors and
non-Ambassadors, but I don’t exactly understand why. Within the Castle and
Space communities there is some envy about who has an NDA and who doesn’t, but I
don’t see any mistrust at all. On the opposite point of view, I feel that there
is a lot of trust that we will accurately communicate the communities concerns
to TLG and fight to get what the community wants.
So, the question is, if you mistrust the Ambassadors or the Ambassador
community: Why? What is it that you think Ambassadors aren’t doing or aren’t
doing enough of? What would you like to see done differently?
-Lenny
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In lugnet.general, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
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In lugnet.general, Thomas Main wrote:
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In lugnet.general, C. L. GunningCook wrote:
...a lot of good stuff worth considering
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That is a very interesting little image you have there. Why did you make it?
What is the message you are trying to send?
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In my role as art critic I would say that the message here is that the NDA makes
the Ambassadors silent leading to upset in the community. Either that or it’s a
subtle statement on the war in Iraq and the state of African democracy.
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On a broader note, I have heard a lot about mistrust between Ambassadors and
non-Ambassadors, but I don’t exactly understand why. Within the Castle and
Space communities there is some envy about who has an NDA and who doesn’t,
but I don’t see any mistrust at all. On the opposite point of view, I feel
that there is a lot of trust that we will accurately communicate the
communities concerns to TLG and fight to get what the community wants.
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You could probably summarise this in a new variant of the Ambassadors logo.
Perhaps with a cackling Ambassador and two green (with envy) figs. That would be
cool.
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So, the question is, if you mistrust the Ambassadors or the Ambassador
community: Why? What is it that you think Ambassadors aren’t doing or aren’t
doing enough of? What would you like to see done differently?
-Lenny
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I would like to see some more humour from the Ambassadors. Humour is a good
thing and I like it very much. I’d like to see the logo replaced by an
Ambassador with a big smile and two laughing figs.
Tim
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In lugnet.general, Timothy Gould wrote:
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I would like to see some more humour from the Ambassadors. Humour is a good
thing and I like it very much. I’d like to see the logo replaced by an
Ambassador with a big smile and two laughing figs.
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I dont have good enough drawring skillz to do anything as technical as what he
made.
But I am funny all the time Tim! And you better know it!!
WORD!
As for the other Ambassadors... well, some of them can’t be funny because well,
they just can’t. Its a genetic malformity that has crippled them from youth.
And by “other Ambassadors”, I basically mean Mark Sandlin and Dan Rubin. Those
guys just try so hard to be funny and just never pull it off. Its sad really.
More deserving of your pity than your paranoid envious mistrust.
-Lenny
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In lugnet.general, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
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In lugnet.general, Timothy Gould wrote:
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I would like to see some more humour from the Ambassadors. Humour is a good
thing and I like it very much. I’d like to see the logo replaced by an
Ambassador with a big smile and two laughing figs.
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I dont have good enough drawring skillz to do anything as technical as what
he made.
But I am funny all the time Tim! And you better know it!!
WORD!
As for the other Ambassadors... well, some of them can’t be funny because
well, they just can’t. Its a genetic malformity that has crippled them from
youth. And by “other Ambassadors”, I basically mean Mark Sandlin and Dan
Rubin. Those guys just try so hard to be funny and just never pull it off.
Its sad really. More deserving of your pity than your paranoid envious
mistrust.
-Lenny
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Its true. One thing that I’ve noticed just in general community trends is that
people are active in the communities they love. Some are Train, some are
classic-space,classic-castle, classic-clickits!!! Ok, I made up the last one,
but you get the picture. The community is strengthening all of its outer
muscles, which will inevitably strengthen the whole.
Its difficult though, and I know that you all understand, to keep a secret once
it has been given. hell, I’m terrified to walk out of my apartment because what
I might say at a drive through. “yes, please supersize it (I’m American, I
can’t help it) and how about a little CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION.” So I know
where some of these guys are comin from if they’re nervous to talk about what
they’ve learned.
Now, does this mean everyone is doing the right things all the time...um,
probably not...I shouldn’t have just eaten this whole pizza (guuuhhhh). So its
good to question from time to time whether things are working, but there are
lots of things happening all over the place in the community. Is what’s
worrying everyone that its not all in the same place?
As far as whether or not the advice of these NDA ridden groups is being taken
seriously and will be turned into adult friendly products? Yes, I see it
happenning all the time now, but it was a slow start. Not every idea the AFOLs
have given will be used, but its suprising how much affect we all have and if
the goal was to improve many of the LEGO products, then well done my friends.
There’s a lot less suck coming out of the company right now and I think we adult
fans to thank for it.
Steve Witt
LEGO Community Relations Coordinator
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In lugnet.general, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
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In lugnet.general, Thomas Main wrote:
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In lugnet.general, C. L. GunningCook wrote:
...a lot of good stuff worth considering
|
That is a very interesting little image you have there. Why did you make it?
What is the message you are trying to send?
On a broader note, I have heard a lot about mistrust between Ambassadors and
non-Ambassadors, but I don’t exactly understand why. Within the Castle and
Space communities there is some envy about who has an NDA and who doesn’t,
but I don’t see any mistrust at all. On the opposite point of view, I feel
that there is a lot of trust that we will accurately communicate the
communities concerns to TLG and fight to get what the community wants.
So, the question is, if you mistrust the Ambassadors or the Ambassador
community: Why? What is it that you think Ambassadors aren’t doing or aren’t
doing enough of? What would you like to see done differently?
-Lenny
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I have to agree with Lenny on this one, I don’t see a reason why there would be
any mistrust?
Is it the thought that we may be saying one thing and know that to not be the
truth? Although we do have some extra information that we cannot pubicly
release, we would not intentionally tell the communities something that we know
not to be true. That being said, if things change and we have said something in
the past that is no longer valid, we will endeavour to make that information
public as soon as we are allowed.
Just recently with the 9 volt train issues, we saw that people were asking
important questions on the different forums, and with in a few days, we were
able to get a statement from Lego explaning what the ongoing plan was for 9 volt
trains. Now it might not be what people wanted to hear, but it is the truth.
This brings up an intresting point, because of ambassadors (and others under
NDA) we are able to get the communities concerns and questions address by LEGO
and (hopefully, if the question does not violate any NDA’s) answered as quickly
as possible.
Everyone under NDA (well maybe with Exception to Steve Hassenplug (1) ;) ) ,
share the concerns of the general AFOL community, we want metal tracks as much
at the rest of you, and we are voicing our opinions within our NDA related
groups and publicly, talking, and trying to see what we can do to allow metal
track to continue to be produced.
Personally, I understand that LEGO is a business, and as a business, must do
what is best to ensure the company stays profitable.
At the same time I think that creating a play train line that is slated for a
younger age range, to continue a childs interest from an earlier age (Thomas,
and the DUPLO trains). Is a great idea! I see Thomas, and the DUPLO trains in
the retail stores, and they seem to sell well. I think a play train line, with
more track then any 9 volt set ever carried and battery powered train, sold at a
lower cost with MORE track and brick per dollar will sell well! These sales of
Play Train and Duplo trains, will hopefully make retailers look at what other
train related items LEGO has. if the 9 volt line is no longer there to support a
young persons growing intrest in trains, then TLC will be losing out in the long
run.
As a Hobby Train enthusiast, The loss of 9 volt trains will cause us problems,
if not now then in the future. when Motors stop working, but until then, I will
keep on using 9 volt trains, and at the same time see if it is possible to
integrate the hobby train line into our layouts. Perhaps by using the RCX and
rechargable battries, of by some magical future technology like nuclear
battaries or something :)
In the long run I am considering the worst, but trying to work with in the
community and with the ambassadors. to try to keep one of my favorite aspects of
the LEGO hobby a reality..
Jeff (who has been known to go off on tangets) VW
(1) Sorry Steve, it has been a while since I poked fun at you... :)
(2) Wow I think this is one of the longest posts I have written... :|
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In lugnet.general, Jeff Van Winden wrote:
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In lugnet.general, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
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In lugnet.general, Thomas Main wrote:
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In lugnet.general, C. L. GunningCook wrote:
...a lot of good stuff worth considering
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(snip)
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That is a very interesting little image you have there. Why did you make
it? What is the message you are trying to send?
On a broader note, I have heard a lot about mistrust between Ambassadors and
non-Ambassadors, but I don’t exactly understand why. Within the Castle and
Space communities there is some envy about who has an NDA and who doesn’t,
but I don’t see any mistrust at all. On the opposite point of view, I feel
that there is a lot of trust that we will accurately communicate the
communities concerns to TLG and fight to get what the community wants.
So, the question is, if you mistrust the Ambassadors or the Ambassador
community: Why? What is it that you think Ambassadors aren’t doing or
aren’t doing enough of? What would you like to see done differently?
-Lenny
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I have to agree with Lenny on this one, I don’t see a reason why there would
be any mistrust?
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HI Jeff, are you coming to the rtl dinner on Thurs?
I didn’t see ANY reference to mistrust, or lies in this entire thread. Those
seem to be words Lenny used.
Neither Janey or anyone else ever accused any NDA’er of lying.
To paraphrase what has been said, is that the spirit of the original intent of
the “ambassador” program seems to be ... “lacking.”
Tell me Jeff, since I first congratulated you for becoming an ambassador, how
many times have you “spread the word?” I can’t recall any time. On the other
hand , I ~HAVE~ seen you post a few questionnaires asking us questions and
looking for feedback.
I say that is best summarized by Toms logo. Mainly silence from the
ambassadors, and unhappy AFOLS who want the “scoop”
(snip)
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Jeff (who has been known to go off on tangets) VW
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Chris
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In lugnet.general, Chris Magno wrote:
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I didn’t see ANY reference to mistrust, or lies in this entire thread. Those
seem to be words Lenny used.
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“and a certain amount of distrust both between and within them.” From
here
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Neither Janey or anyone else ever accused any NDA’er of lying.
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Then where does the lack of trust come from? Or to use your words, what is the
problem?
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To paraphrase what has been said, is that the spirit of the original intent
of the “ambassador” program seems to be ... “lacking.”
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What was the original intent, and how is it lacking?
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I ~HAVE~ seen you post a few questionnaires asking us questions
and looking for feedback.
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From the Ambassador point of view: we got an email from Steve saying SAH would
like some community feedback, and asked if we could post those questions on
various newsgroups. Which is what we did. Why were we asked that? My guess is
they wanted help coming up with ideas for new sets, sets that would appeal to
AFOLs. I don’t see why that is a problem.
How was the information used? Honestly, I have no idea.
What is it you were expecting? What do you want to be different?
-Lenny
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In lugnet.general, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
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In lugnet.general, Chris Magno wrote:
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I didn’t see ANY reference to mistrust, or lies in this entire thread.
Those seem to be words Lenny used.
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“and a certain amount of distrust both between and within them.” From
here
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Well then, I sit corrected on the “mis/dis” trust phrase. If you want to argue
semantics, then might I suggest moving this to .debate.
In the mean time, both YOU and Jeff, came out guns blazing, trying your
darnedest to make sure you set “us” all straight. To quote some dead guy...
“me thinks thou doth protest too much”
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Neither Janey or anyone else ever accused any NDA’er of lying.
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Then where does the lack of trust come from? Or to use your words, what is
the problem?
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have no problem, than again I’m am a pessimistic jaded bitter man(1)
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With the sentence you are quoting me on, I think you proved to me and yourself
that maybe you need to ask others about the “lack of trust.“(2)
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To paraphrase what has been said, is that the spirit of the original intent
of the “ambassador” program seems to be ... “lacking.”
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What was the original intent, and how is it lacking?
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I can not speak to the “official” intent of the program. I can only speak for
myself here, but, I feel the lack of communication from ambassadors and others
under NDA is what is perceived to be at issue.
The lacking comes from the (perceived) ONE WAY communications. Whats not to
get. When has an ambassador said or revealed ANYTHING that Jake, or now Steve
can’t say? They both type good english. (3)
So what are the ambassadors for? Are the ambassador merely just puppets sent
out to gather needed data? I dont know.
So, going back, I was originally under the impression that the ambassador
program was a way for TLC to release “tidbits”, and “gosh-gee” cool news. What
I think has happened is that overly nervous lawyers have shackled the AFOLS’ and
those that are not in fear of the lawyers, are in fear of their peers.(4)
So that leaves Jeff et all with being allowed to ask survey questions.
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I ~HAVE~ seen you post a few questionnaires asking us questions
and looking for feedback.
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From the Ambassador point of view: we got an email from Steve saying SAH
would like some community feedback, and asked if we could post those
questions on various newsgroups. Which is what we did. Why were we asked
that? My guess is they wanted help coming up with ideas for new sets, sets
that would appeal to AFOLs. I don’t see why that is a problem.
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That is not the problem, but Lenny, communication is a TWO WAY thing. And I dont
mean you ask a questions and I give you an answers.
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How was the information used? Honestly, I have no idea.
What is it you were expecting? What do you want to be different?
-Lenny
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Again, I expect nothing. I am jaded. What I THINK others want to be different
is to be able to HEAR more tidbits, and “gosh gee” stuff.
Let me try a different approach.
Lenny, how come I am not seeing weekly or even MONTHLY top SPOTLIGHT’s posts
from ambassadors on the main page?
How come I am NOT seeing the follow up replys along the lines of
(WARNING - made up to help express a point)
“DID ya see what jeff said? Bley is being removed from the line up”
or
“WOW Kelly, GREAT NEWS, its nice to see that lego is THINKING about putting
metal back on the tracks”
or how about
“wow Richie, who knew that lego was contemplating a new THEME park in Sydney
thanks for this tidbit”
(end WARNING)
That would be how I foresaw how the ambassador program worked.
Chris
1. Not only is the glass half empty, I want to know who STOLE my water!
2. http://news.lugnet.com/general/?n=52437
3. unlike me
4. There is a good chance that if you broke the NDA you would NOT get sued till
the cows come home, BUT, you can sure as heck bet that TLC would think TWICE
about including AFOLS again, AND thats a peer pressure even MORE threatening
that lawyers.
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In lugnet.general, Chris Magno wrote:
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In lugnet.general, Jeff Van Winden wrote:
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In lugnet.general, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
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In lugnet.general, Thomas Main wrote:
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In lugnet.general, C. L. GunningCook wrote:
...a lot of good stuff worth considering
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(snip)
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That is a very interesting little image you have there. Why did you make
it? What is the message you are trying to send?
On a broader note, I have heard a lot about mistrust between Ambassadors
and non-Ambassadors, but I don’t exactly understand why. Within the Castle
and Space communities there is some envy about who has an NDA and who
doesn’t, but I don’t see any mistrust at all. On the opposite point of
view, I feel that there is a lot of trust that we will accurately
communicate the communities concerns to TLG and fight to get what the
community wants.
So, the question is, if you mistrust the Ambassadors or the Ambassador
community: Why? What is it that you think Ambassadors aren’t doing or
aren’t doing enough of? What would you like to see done differently?
-Lenny
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I have to agree with Lenny on this one, I don’t see a reason why there would
be any mistrust?
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HI Jeff, are you coming to the rtl dinner on Thurs?
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I do plan on being there, and at that time I can explain why I have not been at
any rtl Events for the past month :(
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I didn’t see ANY reference to mistrust, or lies in this entire thread. Those
seem to be words Lenny used.
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Neither Janey or anyone else ever accused any NDA’er of lying.
To paraphrase what has been said, is that the spirit of the original intent
of the “ambassador” program seems to be ... “lacking.”
Tell me Jeff, since I first congratulated you for becoming an ambassador, how
many times have you “spread the word?” I can’t recall any time. On the
other hand , I ~HAVE~ seen you post a few questionnaires asking us questions
and looking for feedback.
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In all honesty Chris, and everyone else reading this, until just recently, we
were not given information about new ‘golly gee’ kind of things to make public.
We are only now being let into some of the up and comming things, that are in
the pipeline. We hope for more of this type of infor to come in the future, and
we are very eager to be the ones that get to be able to release that info to you
all.
Last cycle was sort of slow being in the end of the year, where product
development happens at a slower pace. I can remember a few times during the last
cycle that we were told about something new, on the same day as it was release
publicly, or leaked via a dealear catalog. Or we found the Leak and had to ask
if it was real or not.
I have to cut this short as I need to head home, but we can talk some more
tomorrow.
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I say that is best summarized by Toms logo. Mainly silence from the
ambassadors, and unhappy AFOLS who want the “scoop”
(snip)
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Jeff (who has been known to go off on tangets) VW
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Chris
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In lugnet.general, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
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On a broader note, I have heard a lot about mistrust between Ambassadors and
non-Ambassadors, but I don’t exactly understand why. Within the Castle and
Space communities there is some envy about who has an NDA and who doesn’t,
but I don’t see any mistrust at all. On the opposite point of view, I feel
that there is a lot of trust that we will accurately communicate the
communities concerns to TLG and fight to get what the community wants.
So, the question is, if you mistrust the Ambassadors or the Ambassador
community: Why? What is it that you think Ambassadors aren’t doing or aren’t
doing enough of? What would you like to see done differently?
-Lenny
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I can only speak for myself, but I think lack of communication has alot to do
with it. Of course, this is by no means the fault of the Ambassadors themselves.
Simply put, those of you who fall under the umbrella of a NDA are privy to a
level of interaction with LEGO that the more casual fan is not. An unfortunate
reality is that such a relationship is bound to stir up some fans, causing
feelings of envy or jealousy to surface.
Moreover, this lack of communication between Ambasssadors and non-Ambassadors
leads to a certain level of suspicion among the latter group. Being in the dark,
the non-Ambassador may question whether the Ambassadors are truly representing
them, and the AFOL community as a whole. Unfortunately for Ambassadors, there
doesn’t seem to be a way to confirm that they are representing more than their
own personal interests when interacting with LEGO. I’ve seen various polls
conducted by Ambassadors on theme-specific sites like Classic-Castle, but rarely
do we know what becomes of such a survey. The problem of course is, that there
is no way to confirm or deny that LEGO is making much use of this information.
Being in the dark can get quite frustrating when LEGO is implementing a major
change. I think the crux of the problem is information is only moving in one
direction. This is something that only LEGO can change, and considering how
gaurded they are (as are all large companies), this relationship can be quite
taxing on fans.
Finally, alot of non-Ambassadors are simply jealous. There is no other way to
describe it. They wish they had your position. Still, from what I’ve seen, most
of the Ambassadors are very involved with the AFOL community, and would make far
better representatives than most of us non-Ambassadors (there are exceptions of
course). I think alost every fan would give a lung or kidney for the chance to
actively meet with representatives at LEGO to give them their suggestions. The
fact that many Ambassadors have served multiple terms (and will likely continue
to do so) certainly doesn’t help things with the more bitter non-Ambassador.
The reality is, LEGO would be hard-pressed to find better people to serve as
Ambassadors, and people who are returning for a second, third or even fourth
time have undoubtedly proven themselves to be worthwhile to both the community
and to the Ambassador program. I would love to see more interaction between the
Ambassador and non-Ambassador community, but this of course, is in LEGO’s
corner.
Later.
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Hello!
In lugnet.general, Joel Midgley wrote:
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I can only speak for myself, but I think lack of communication has alot to do
with it. ...
Moreover, this lack of communication between Ambasssadors and non-Ambassadors
leads to a certain level of suspicion among the latter group.
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Actually I don’t see that problem at all. Why would there be a lack of
communication? Sure, there are some AFOLs who get per ambassadorship some
insight in some activities within the LEGO group. Whenever they (the
ambassadors) are allowed to do so they tell the AFOL community about these
activities. That’s communication.
Most things, so we hear, the ambassadors get insight into are not publicised.
These things wouldn’t be publicised anyway, if there were ambassadors or if
there were none. So what’s the difference?
Maybe we, the non-NDA-ed AFOL community, simply expect to much of this whole
ambassador programme. It was never meant to make the LEGO company transparent to
us. Yet that seems to be the expectation of some AFOLs.
I’m sure the LEGO company gains some profit out of this ambassador programme,
otherwise they wouldn’t have installed it in the first place, and otherwise they
wouldn’t have renewed it a second and third time. Whether or not this programme
will yield some real benefit for the AFOLs/for all LEGO customers only time will
tell. So far we sometimes get some information through an ambassador that we
might have gotten through any LEGO representative (Brad, Jake, Steve, Jan) in
case there weren’t ambassadors.
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Being in the
dark, the non-Ambassador may question whether the Ambassadors are truly
representing them, and the AFOL community as a whole. Unfortunately for
Ambassadors, there doesn’t seem to be a way to confirm that they are
representing more than their own personal interests when interacting with
LEGO.
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Ambassadors are not elected representatives of the AFOL community in the
parliamentary-democratic sense of the word. Everybody was free to apply but TLC
chose the candidates. That means the AFOL community has no right to demand
anything from both TLC and the ambassadors. However, as far as I am able to
judge it the ambassadors try for being representatives of the AFOL community,
though without denying themselves. And I think they do it right.
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Finally, alot of non-Ambassadors are simply jealous. There is no other way to
describe it. They wish they had your position. ...
I think alost every fan would give a lung or kidney
for the chance to actively meet with representatives at LEGO to give them
their suggestions.
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You are probably right concerning the jealousy. This jealousy would likely get
lessened when the jealous ones were to read, understand and answer 1500
ambassador mails per round :-)
I’m not sure about the leg-and-kidney-thing, though. Even LEGO-representatives
are human. They even are mortal. They don’t live somewhere outa space, not on
Olympus Mons. They ain’t even famous in the yellow-press-world outside the AFOL
community. Everybody can always reach one of the LEGO representatives through
e-mail, letter or forum post, can even meet them in person on Brickfests,
1000steine-Lands or other meetings.
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The reality is, LEGO would be hard-pressed to find better people to serve as
Ambassadors, and people who are returning for a second, third or even fourth
time have undoubtedly proven themselves to be worthwhile to both the
community and to the Ambassador program.
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Yep.
Bye
Jojo
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In lugnet.general, Johannes Koehler wrote:
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Actually I don’t see that problem at all. Why would there be a lack of
communication? Sure, there are some AFOLs who get per ambassadorship some
insight in some activities within the LEGO group. Whenever they (the
ambassadors) are allowed to do so they tell the AFOL community about these
activities. That’s communication.
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I agree. I think the difficulty is that many fans are simply expecting too much
from the ambassador program. And again, I’ll restate my earlier point; I
believe that any mistrust is fueled largely by jealousy. Simply put; some (I
won’t say many as that is probably an exaggeration) fans feel slighted simply
because they are not privy to the same information that our ambassadors are.
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Most things, so we hear, the ambassadors get insight into are not publicised.
These things wouldn’t be publicised anyway, if there were ambassadors or if
there were none. So what’s the difference?
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Again, I don’t dispute this. Frankly, I prefer getting first-hand information
from enthusiasts, rather than LEGO employees. The difference is that some
people expect more than our ambassadors are able to give. They (incorrectly)
treat non-disclosure as an act of betrayal.
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Maybe we, the non-NDA-ed AFOL community, simply expect to much of this whole
ambassador programme. It was never meant to make the LEGO company transparent
to us. Yet that seems to be the expectation of some AFOLs.
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I think this is what I was trying to get at in my previous post. Many fans
expected the Ambassador program to create open two-way communication between
LEGO and its fans. Of course, such an expectation is silly.
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Ambassadors are not elected representatives of the AFOL community in the
parliamentary-democratic sense of the word. Everybody was free to apply but
TLC chose the candidates. That means the AFOL community has no right to
demand anything from both TLC and the ambassadors. However, as far as I am
able to judge it the ambassadors try for being representatives of the AFOL
community, though without denying themselves. And I think they do it right.
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A fair point.
I don’t think that the ambassadors owe us (the avg. joe fan) anything. Nor do I
think I am confusing our LEGO ambassadors with political ambassadors. As far as
I understand things, the ambassador program was simply a way of sampling some of
the more-active members of the AFOL community for their thoughts and opinions.
They do not represent us, nor do they owe us anything. I do, however, believe
that many fans have come to see our ambassadors as something different. That
these fans have elevated their expectations of the program, and consequently
mistrust the LEGO ambassadors.
My earlier post was not to suggest that any mis/distrust of the LEGO ambassadors
was justified. For me at least, giving reasons is not the same as justifying
them. In this particular situation, any misgivings about our ambassadors (as a
group) do not seem particularly justifiable. That doesn’t mean that one can’t
attempt to rationalize them
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I’m not sure about the leg-and-kidney-thing, though.
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An embellishment to be sure (of course, you only need one).
Later.
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