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OK, this is more of a question(s) then a statement. First I will ask the
questions and then tell you why I am asking it and what my answer is. This is
something I would like to get a concensus on and add it to the FAQ at some
point.
The Questions:
What does the 3 letter acronym "LUG" mean?
How should it be used?
Why am I asking this question?:
Well I have been talking off line with some folks about this and we fear that
the term "LUG" might be getting taken for granted and used without thinking
about what it means.
Now I think most of us know that "LUG" stands for "LEGO Users Group" but that
isn't the answer I am looking for. We also know there are many regional LUG's
out there like NELUG, NALUG, WamaLUG, RichLUG etc. etc. There is also LUGNET
the LEGO Users Group Network. Which can be taken to mean it is a place for all
the regional LUGs to come and share common experiances (I.E. Network).
All of this is great but then we also have things like BrickLUG Chat and
LUGMag. What are these?
Now I don't want anyone to think I think these are bad ideas. Actually I think
they are great ideas. I just want to understand the names and why LUG is a
part of them.
First BrickLUG Chat... or Brick LEGO Users Group Chat:
To me the name itself doesn't make sense when you string it out. It seems
redundant "Brick LEGO". Why not just call it Brick Chat if it is just a place
for real time chats? Or if it is a place for LEGO User Groups to Chat in real
time why not just call it LUG Chat?
Again I have nothing wrong with having a real time chat. I am just wondering
about the name.
Second LUGMag... or LEGO Users Group Magazine:
First I would assume by the name that this was some sort of Magazine detailing
events and/or issues related to LUG's. But that isn't what it is at all.
See here:
http://news.lugnet.com/general/?n=26430
Again I think the idea is great with great presentation but the name doesn't
make sense to me.
Are these just cases that because we can't use LEGO in our URL's we substitue
"LUG" instead?
Anyway here are my answers to the 3 questions I asked earlier:
What does the 3 letter acronym "LUG" mean?
To me this means a group of people that get together (either in real life or
virtually) to discuss a common subject, LEGO. (please no snid remarks about
Linux User Groups).
Now I think BrickLUG Chat falls into this catagory but I still think the name
doesn't make sense to me (see above).
How should it be used?
In my mind this is simple. It should either stand alone like it does in the
name LUGNET or it should be prefixed by a descriptive region or location like
NE for New England or Rich for Richmond. For that matter I think AOLLUG or
AIMLUG might be better than BrickLUG.
LUGMag does stand alone like LUGNET but to me the name isn't descriptive of
what it is (see above).
Again I don't want to start a flame war I am just trying to see what other
people think about the term LUG. I just don't want to see the term taken for
granted and used for the sake of using it. Also note that I have no problem
with either BrickLUG Chat or LUGMag its just their names don't make sense to
me.
I also don't expect either BrickLUG or LUGMag to change their names. I just
want people to start thinking about the use of the term LUG before they use it.
Eric Kingsley
The New England LEGO Users Group
http://www.nelug.org/
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"Eric Kingsley" <kingsley@nelug.org> wrote in message
news:G9H6I8.AnL@lugnet.com...
[ ... lots of snippage ... ]
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> Again I don't want to start a flame war I am just trying to see what other
> people think about the term LUG. I just don't want to see the term taken • for
> granted and used for the sake of using it. Also note that I have no • problem
> with either BrickLUG Chat or LUGMag its just their names don't make sense • to
> me.
>
> I also don't expect either BrickLUG or LUGMag to change their names. I • just
> want people to start thinking about the use of the term LUG before they • use it.
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> Eric Kingsley
>
> The New England LEGO Users Group
> http://www.nelug.org/
To me LUG is LEGO Users Group - a loose collection of people interested in
all things LEGO. To me an LTC is simply a form of a LUG with a very
specific focus.
One thing to not - if you want to register a XXLUG type domain, there are
lots of Linux Users Group (also a LUG) and lots of domains are taken. That
is the reason NCLUG is nclug.net and not nclug.org - the Linux group had
already registered it.
Mike
--
Mike Walsh - mike_walsh at mindspring dot com
http://www.nclug.net - North Carolina LEGO Users Group
http://www.nclug.net/ctb - Carolina Train Builders
http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=mpw - Brick Depot
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Eric Kingsley at kingsley@nelug.org wrote:
> First BrickLUG Chat... or Brick LEGO Users Group Chat:
>
> To me the name itself doesn't make sense when you string it out. It seems
> redundant "Brick LEGO". Why not just call it Brick Chat if it is just a place
> for real time chats? Or if it is a place for LEGO User Groups to Chat in real
> time why not just call it LUG Chat?
Because someone named it that a long time ago, and it's become such a
well-known destination for chat folks that we haven't bothered to change it.
Changing it would involve lots of notification of everyone who frequents the
chat room, which would be more trouble than it's worth.
BTW, SEALUG stands for SEattle Area Lego User's Group
:^)
~Grand Admiral Muffin Head
--
Mark's Lego(R) Creations
http://www.nwlink.com/~sandlin/lego
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In lugnet.org, Mark Sandlin writes:
> Eric Kingsley at kingsley@nelug.org wrote:
>
> > First BrickLUG Chat... or Brick LEGO Users Group Chat:
> >
> > To me the name itself doesn't make sense when you string it out. It seems
> > redundant "Brick LEGO". Why not just call it Brick Chat if it is just a • place
> > for real time chats? Or if it is a place for LEGO User Groups to Chat in • real
> > time why not just call it LUG Chat?
>
> Because someone named it that a long time ago, and it's become such a
> well-known destination for chat folks that we haven't bothered to change it.
> Changing it would involve lots of notification of everyone who frequents the
> chat room, which would be more trouble than it's worth.
The point isn't "why hasn't the name been changed". The point was "why did it
get named that to begin with" and, going forward, "let's all think about how we
as a community would like to see the TLA 'LUG' used."
eric
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In lugnet.org, "Lorbaat" <eric@nospam.thirteen.net> writes:
> The point isn't "why hasn't the name been changed". The point was "why did it
> get named that to begin with" and, going forward, "let's all think about how we
> as a community would like to see the TLA 'LUG' used."
Yes. I'm very concerned about this.
--Todd
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In lugnet.org, Mark Sandlin <sandlin@nwlink.com> writes:
> Because someone named it that a long time ago, and it's become such a
> well-known destination for chat folks that we haven't bothered to change it.
> Changing it would involve lots of notification of everyone who frequents the
> chat room, which would be more trouble than it's worth.
How much notification (like a number or time)? I've never used it so I
don't have a sense for what it would entail.
--Todd
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In lugnet.general, Eric Kingsley writes:
> First BrickLUG Chat... or Brick LEGO Users Group Chat:
>
> To me the name itself doesn't make sense when you string it out. It seems
> redundant "Brick LEGO". Why not just call it Brick Chat if it is just a place
> for real time chats? Or if it is a place for LEGO User Groups to Chat in real
> time why not just call it LUG Chat?
>
> Again I have nothing wrong with having a real time chat. I am just wondering
> about the name.
There is a simple answer to this. Kyle wanted to make the room permanent, and
I believe the first couple names he tried were being used. "BrickLUG" was the
first that was available. :)
This is all from memory, so I could be waaaay out there....
Jeff
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In lugnet.org, Jeff Stembel writes:
> In lugnet.general, Eric Kingsley writes:
> > <snip>
> There is a simple answer to this. Kyle wanted to make the room permanent, and
> I believe the first couple names he tried were being used. "BrickLUG" was the
> first that was available. :)
Which kind of highlights what Todd said in a different thread...
paraphrasing him (and an old saying), "pick a name in haste, repent at
leisure".
I agree with Eric K. that thinking about names is goodness (although it can
be taken to extremes, as with anything)... and I don't think anyone is
asking for changes to anything already done.
++Lar
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Man that was a long time ago! Ok, maybe only last summer but I still don't
remember the deatails.
If I remember right:
I had found this little thingy from AIM(AOL Instant Messenger) that allows
you to link to a AIM chatroom on a website. You had to put in a name that
wasn't allready taken. So I asked the people in teh room for a few names,
and someone said BrickLUG. No one had a better idea that wasn't taken, so
that is what we decided on. There are about 10-15 people that are
frequenters and many infrequent vistors, so changing the name would take
alot of communication. Many people have made shortcuts to the room on their
computers that would have to be changed. I could easily change the links and
stuff on the page and new visitors would never even know, but old visitors
who hadn't heard about the change would think it dissappeared.
PS: It's just a little LEGO-themed chat room, the name really has nothing to
do with anything except it's what is used by AIM to reference the room.
HTH
--Kyle
http://hvl.cjb.net
In lugnet.org, Jeff Stembel writes:
> In lugnet.general, Eric Kingsley writes:
> > First BrickLUG Chat... or Brick LEGO Users Group Chat:
> >
> > To me the name itself doesn't make sense when you string it out. It seems
> > redundant "Brick LEGO". Why not just call it Brick Chat if it is just a place
> > for real time chats? Or if it is a place for LEGO User Groups to Chat in real
> > time why not just call it LUG Chat?
> >
> > Again I have nothing wrong with having a real time chat. I am just wondering
> > about the name.
>
> There is a simple answer to this. Kyle wanted to make the room permanent, and
> I believe the first couple names he tried were being used. "BrickLUG" was the
> first that was available. :)
>
> This is all from memory, so I could be waaaay out there....
>
> Jeff
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In lugnet.general, Eric Kingsley writes:
> Now I think most of us know that "LUG" stands for "LEGO Users Group" but that
> isn't the answer I am looking for. We also know there are many regional LUG's
> out there like NELUG, NALUG, WamaLUG, RichLUG etc. etc. There is also LUGNET
> the LEGO Users Group Network. Which can be taken to mean it is a place for
> all the regional LUGs to come and share common experiances (I.E. Network).
Forgot to point out that WAMALUG should should be in all caps when written with
other capitalized LUG names. :)
Jeff
P.S. You can always think of BrickLUG Chat as "Brick - The Lego Users Group
Chat" ;D
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