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| (...) Right. As of March 1989, published works do not need to have a copyright notice in order to gain protection. However, it's still good to put it there, because apparently "I didn't know that was copyrighted" has been a successful legal defense (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground, lugnet.publish)
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| (...) Exactly right. Further the copyright is by default! That is, you have to disclaim it to immediately put something in the public domain. And I believe in the US, at least, an explicit assertion is not required, although it helps protect your (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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| (...) Bad form. Repetition of this kind can lead to suspension from a group. It's happened before. (...) Technically, it's copyright infringement to use a piece in the same way that Lego uses a piece in an official set. I'm so glad they don't really (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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| On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 13:41:48 -0600, Mladen Pejic wrote (in message <FxyMpo.D1L@lugnet.com>): (...) Oh, Mladen...I'm so disappointed. Next, I suppose you'll be holding your breath until everyone does what you want? My respect for your designs remains (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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| (...) To further clarify: this is what design patents are for. (24 years ago, 20-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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| (...) Sure, the jpg images are copyrighted. I don't think that the design for a model expressed therein necessarily is. (I'm not a lawyer, but if I were, I'm sure I could dredge up some precedent / example here. There was a special exception added (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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| (...) Just say on your web site "I was inspired by So-and-so's cool design for the blah blah part of this castle." (...) Well, and of course point (D), which is that even if they say no, it's not like they have a legal (or perhaps even moral) claim (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground, lugnet.admin.general)
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| (...) You're thinking trademark. Mladen has (at least in the US) a copyright over anything he has created. One can *register* a copyright, which makes it much easier to defend in a court of law, but one does not need to register to actually hold a (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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| (...) <snip> (...) Me and mark were in our little lego chat room the other night when he showed me his new VTOL called the Kingfisher. I saw it and told him cool and that that was the name of a very cool VTOl by Ben Vaughn. Mark said, "really, i'll (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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| mladen- oh calm down! what's the matter big boy? someone not love you enough? asking for your honest input as a builder i respect only to be answered with mocking disdain is COMPLETELY uncalled for! if i were kingsley i'd ban you and your (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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| So am I supposed to reply to everything that is posted on LUGNET. Fine, I'll humour you: Wow, that's the coolest models ever made! I really can't wait 'til you build some more! Hope you're happy! (...) that (...) peoples' (...) respond (...) impact (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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| Random thoughts. 1. Mladen, you're a lego genius. I went to your web page and was knocked out. 2. Geniuses are allowed a bit of slack in my book to be temperamental. :^) 3. Still, I think that you would be better served by relaxing and toning down (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground, lugnet.admin.general)
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| (...) Copying it and claiming credit, sure, that's not nice. But just copying the idea is _fine_. (...) This may be copyright infringement. Taking those dat files and building a model from them wouldn't be. (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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| (...) So you've filled out the appropriate paper work, sent in your money to the copyright offices and waited 6 or so months for the copyright aproval of your 'product'? If not, I have some extra copyright forms you could use... ~Nathan (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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| (...) I tell ya, that's all I want to do right now, especially after this bombshell I dropped. Mladen, you're entitled to wanting to keep your designs yours, but your behavior and language is way out of line. Shouting and swearing at folks for (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground, lugnet.admin.general)
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| well said patrick. it seems strange to me that someone would get THAT upset about a "crime" that hasn't evn been committed, especilly when you consider that the whole mech (oops, excuse me i mean MECHA) thing is "borrowed" from or influenced by (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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| (...) The only way to guarantee this is to not publish your pictures. Ron Sedlmeyer (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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| (...) Mladen, I agree with you to a point on this one, but I have to say not fully. I understand your frustration at having someone copy a design which I'm assuming to quite a bit of time to develope, judging by its complexity. I have no problem (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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| Woah! Take it easy Mladen. Designing models with LEGO and sharing them is lot like the entertainment industry; there is no theft it is just influence or people making tributes to a source of inspiration. This is the way you should look at it, (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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| jeez kiddies- isn't it about time we all started playing nicey nicey? i mean i may be a newbie or whatever, but copyrights and patents? what the hell are we talking about here? mark and mladen both of you do awesome work- who cares who "steals" from (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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