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Re: Lightweight show tables
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Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:20:46 GMT
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Currently our tables are made with 5/8 particle board tops and are about
3'x6'. We recently did a show for the Atlanta History Center and had to
carry these beast up two flights of stairs to the room where we were
displaying. I tell you after that show I really starting thinking about ways
to lighten the load. My original tables were built from door skins, but due
to pressure from the environmentalist Home Depot stopped carrying them, so I
went with the particle board tables.

This summer between shows I think I'm going to seriously consider trying
some of these foam based tables.

jt

--
James J. Trobaugh
North Georgia LEGO Train Club
http://www.ngltc.org
Frank Filz <ffilz@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:3A72633F.1EA4116E@mindspring.com...
"James J. Trobaugh" wrote:

I don't know about other groups but the biggest pain for me with our • club is
the loading/unloading of the heavy tables. Recently there has been some • talk
on my local NMRA discussion group about lightweight foam top tables
(Styrofoam --EXTRUDED foam  such as "Dow Board", "blue-board, etc. -- as
used in building material, not beaded foam which is too weak.)

From what I've gathered the idea is that you would have a strong frame • maybe
wood or some type carbon resin beams, then either a mesh or framed • supports
in the middle and the foam board for the top. You wouldn't put anything
super heavy on this but heck it would defiantly hold some buildings, • track
and some trains. I'm waiting for one of the NMRA members to send me the • name
of a book that talks about how to build such tables in detail.

Has anyone seen such a table or maybe even built one themselves?

The table I built for an HO train layout used this kind of foam board. I
built a frame out of 1x3 lumber. The top was anywhere from 2-4 1/2"
layers of foam (I couldn't get the 1" thick material it would be a
little stronger). My table was sectional with the largest unit being
2'x5'. A 2'x5' section has 2 cross braces, so the frame looks like:

+-----+-------+---------+
|     |       |         |
|     |       |         |
|     |       |         |
+-----+-------+---------+

These tables are quite strong, if you look on this page:

http://www.mindspring.com/~ffilz/Lego/apartment.html

In the 2nd picture, you will see 3 of the sections (2 2'x5' and one
2'x4') forming a shelf holding a huge pile of unopened LEGO sets.
Currently that table is holding the equivalent of over 40 huge sets (and
they mostly aren't light ones either, 5 4565, 3 8480, 1 8880, 2 or 3
each of the UCS sets and Millennium Falcon for example). I don't think
I've ever stood on one of these, but you probably can if you're gentle.
I don't think you'll have any weight problems even if you built a
substantial LEGO mountain. The table top in the 1st picture is also 3
layers of foam, but it has boards and such under it (the real purpose
was to store the extra foam that had been intended for mountain building
on the HO layout, though it also gave me an easily cut and man handled
4'x6' table top). I think a 1/2" layer would be strong enough for most
purposes, but one might want a 1" layer if you plan on building LEGO
mountains.

There is another advantage besides weight in using this scheme. Your
table tops can be constructed without any power tools without too much
masochism (cutting the 1x3 lumber by hand would be tiresome but doable).
A power drill (with screwdriver capability), carpenters glue, screws or
nails, any kind of power saw (I used a chop saw), and a knife will work
just dandy. To cut the foam board, you score once with a knife and then
snap.

Another advantage is that they will probably result in quieter train
running than plywood.

I actually need to think about convincing our folks to go this way for
the tables we will be building. The foam board doesn't even cost that
much, it's at least comparable to plywood, and may be cheaper than A-B
plywood, though a 1" think top wouldn't be too much lighter than the
3/8" plywood specced for the PNLTC tables (which is also plenty strong).

Frank



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  Re: Lightweight show tables
 
(...) 5/8" is WAY thicker than you need, and particle board is heavier than plywood. The 3/8" that PNLTC specs is probably a good choice, though 1/4" is thick enough also. Frank (23 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains)

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  Re: Lightweight show tables
 
(...) The table I built for an HO train layout used this kind of foam board. I built a frame out of 1x3 lumber. The top was anywhere from 2-4 1/2" layers of foam (I couldn't get the 1" thick material it would be a little stronger). My table was (...) (23 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains)

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