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Re: What's "a car" & what's a "digital picture"? (was:Re: LEGO Trains on trial?)
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Fri, 5 Jan 2001 05:12:46 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, James Mathis writes:
> In lugnet.trains, Kai Brodersen writes:
> > In lugnet.trains, Richard W. Schamus writes:
> > > In lugnet.trains, Harvey Henkelman writes:
> > >
> > > I too feel afraid for the demise of this wonderful line. I myself am going
> > > to submit my tank cars and
> >
> > > at least one of my versions of passenger trains.
> >
> > EEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHH wrong if you read the rules you can only enter A CAR
>
> Hmm? What constitutes "a car"?
>
> 1) Would a double-stack container group with shared wheelsets be more than one
> "car"?
>
> 2) Is a steam locomotive with tender actually TWO "cars"? (unlikely to be
> viewed as two separate "cars", but can it literall be viewed as two cars?)
>
> 3) If a trainset is not connected via magnetic couplers, is it still one "car"?
>
> 4) How about a model like my "BOB" train or EuroTram, in which some of the
> "cars" don't even have wheels?!
> a) These wheel-less "cars" rely on adjacent "cars" for support and
> articulation.
> b) It would look silly to submit a single "car" that didn't have any
> wheels!
> c) For that matter, a wheel-less "car" would certainly be disqualified by
> the rule that the "car" must run on standard LEGO 9v train track.
>
> Just a nit-pik, and one I'm not sure I'd want to read nor have to write to have
> the rules more specific regarding this issue.
> As detailed as the rules read, one still must make inferences and use one's own
> best judgement. Or, maybe even contact the "rules committee(?)" for further
> clarification.
>
> Hmmm...
> For those who are not 6-widers: There's nothing in the rules regarding scale.
> ;-)
>
> This train building contest is certainly interesting.
>
> I am curious to know if a "digital picture" means
> 1) any photo taken with a digital camera, even if submitted as a color
> print-out
> a) in print-form the photo is no longer literally digital, is it?
> b) as stated elsewhere in the rules, no digital submission, say via e-mail,
> will be accepted.
> c) no mention of photo submission via a floppy or CD disk is made in the
> rules, but would likely be disqualified because an image on a floppy or CD is
> certainly digital!
> 2) a photo taken with a chemical film camera
> but, then the entrant elects
> a) to scan the chemical print (is the photo now digital?)
> b) make a color print-out of the scanned image (is the photo still
> digital, or is it chemical on paper?)
>
> Perhaps I have not understood the contest rules completely nor correctly.
> I read some ambiguity- maybe it is derived out of my own ignorance?
> Maybe I just don't know what a "digital picture" really literally is?
>
> I would guess they intend to mean you must use chemical film to capture the
> original image. If there intent is to safeguard against internet/web site
> "photo"- er, image- theft, I imagine this would work.
>
> Makes me wonder why the "rules writer" just didn't say, "please use chemical
> photographic print film to photograph your train car that is made out of LEGO
> bricks."... or something like that. Film type would not matter: 110, 35mm,
> medium format, Daguerreotype ;-) oops, that's on silver or a silver-covered
> copper plate! Go for it, if you can handle the mercury! It isn't digital ;-)
>
> Sorry, just having a bit of fun.
> I imagine that it is very hard to write contest rules that are entirely
> unambiguous.
> My most sincere compliments to LEGO S@H for sponsoring such a fun activity.
>
> > > The rules did not say that you couldn't submit something that's been seen
> > > out there already. I'm hoping that we get a variety of long time train
> > > collectors and their designs in for submission.
>
> I would enjoy seeing all the entries, not just the few "winners".
> I will assume that the circulation of S@H catalogs far far exceeds those who
> frequent "lugnet.trains".
I definitely agree on this, the contest should draw a few more trainheads
into the fold. And as for my method of picture-taking, I have no choice but
to use a disposable for this.
> I would assume that we'll enjoy eventually seeing all of the "lugneters"
> entries, but there must be so many more entries outside of the lugnet
> community.
> Barring that eyeful, I would be curious to learn how many models are entered
> for this contest. 100? 1,000? 10,000?
>
> Have fun building!
>
> later,
> James Mathis
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