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Subject: 
What's "a car" & what's a "digital picture"? (was:Re: LEGO Trains on trial?)
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Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:06:02 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Kai Brodersen writes:
In lugnet.trains, Richard W. Schamus writes:
In lugnet.trains, Harvey Henkelman writes:

I too feel afraid for the demise of this wonderful line. I myself am going
to submit my tank cars and

at least one of my versions of passenger trains.

EEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHH wrong if you read the rules you can only enter A CAR

Hmm?  What constitutes "a car"?

1) Would a double-stack container group with shared wheelsets be more than one
"car"?

2) Is a steam locomotive with tender actually TWO "cars"?  (unlikely to be
viewed as two separate "cars", but can it literall be viewed as two cars?)

3) If a trainset is not connected via magnetic couplers, is it still one "car"?

4) How about a model like my "BOB" train or EuroTram, in which some of the
"cars" don't even have wheels?!
    a) These wheel-less "cars" rely on adjacent "cars" for support and
articulation.
    b) It would look silly to submit a single "car" that didn't have any
wheels!
    c) For that matter, a wheel-less "car" would certainly be disqualified by
the rule that the "car" must run on standard LEGO 9v train track.

Just a nit-pik, and one I'm not sure I'd want to read nor have to write to have
the rules more specific regarding this issue.
As detailed as the rules read, one still must make inferences and use one's own
best judgement.  Or, maybe even contact the "rules committee(?)" for further
clarification.

Hmmm...
For those who are not 6-widers:  There's nothing in the rules regarding scale.
;-)

This train building contest is certainly interesting.

I am curious to know if a "digital picture" means
1) any photo taken with a digital camera, even if submitted as a color
print-out
    a) in print-form the photo is no longer literally digital, is it?
    b) as stated elsewhere in the rules, no digital submission, say via e-mail,
will be accepted.
    c) no mention of photo submission via a floppy or CD disk is made in the
rules, but would likely be disqualified because an image on a floppy or CD is
certainly digital!
2) a photo taken with a chemical film camera
    but, then the entrant elects
    a) to scan the chemical print (is the photo now digital?)
    b) make a color print-out of the scanned image (is the photo still
digital, or is it chemical on paper?)

Perhaps I have not understood the contest rules completely nor correctly.
I read some ambiguity- maybe it is derived out of my own ignorance?
Maybe I just don't know what a "digital picture" really literally is?

I would guess they intend to mean you must use chemical film to capture the
original image.  If there intent is to safeguard against internet/web site
"photo"- er, image- theft, I imagine this would work.

Makes me wonder why the "rules writer" just didn't say, "please use chemical
photographic print film to photograph your train car that is made out of LEGO
bricks."... or something like that.  Film type would not matter: 110, 35mm,
medium format, Daguerreotype ;-)  oops, that's on silver or a silver-covered
copper plate!  Go for it, if you can handle the mercury!  It isn't digital ;-)

Sorry, just having a bit of fun.
I imagine that it is very hard to write contest rules that are entirely
unambiguous.
My most sincere compliments to LEGO S@H for sponsoring such a fun activity.

The rules did not say that you couldn't submit something that's been seen
out there already. I'm hoping that we get a variety of long time train
collectors and their designs in for submission.

I would enjoy seeing all the entries, not just the few "winners".
I will assume that the circulation of S@H catalogs far far exceeds those who
frequent "lugnet.trains".
I would assume that we'll enjoy eventually seeing all of the "lugneters"
entries, but there must be so many more entries outside of the lugnet
community.
Barring that eyeful, I would be curious to learn how many models are entered
for this contest.  100? 1,000? 10,000?

Have fun building!

later,
James Mathis



Message has 3 Replies:
  Re: What's "a car" & what's a "digital picture"? (was:Re: LEGO Trains on trial?)
 
(...) I definitely agree on this, the contest should draw a few more trainheads into the fold. And as for my method of picture-taking, I have no choice but to use a disposable for this. (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains)
  Re: What's "a car" & what's a "digital picture"? (was:Re: LEGO Trains on trial?)
 
(...) Interesting thought on this: many, perhaps most or even all, photo processing services use digital processing these days. The negatives are stilled developed the old-fashioned way (no way to avoid that), but then they are fed into a unit that (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains)
  Re: What's "a car" & what's a "digital picture"? (was:Re: LEGO Trains on trial?)
 
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, James Mathis (<G6nuu2.GE7@lugnet.com>) wrote at 23:06:02 (...) Haven't read the rules, but perhaps they mean 'no CAD models'. (23 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains)

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  Re: LEGO Trains on trial?
 
(...) EEE...EEEHHH...HHH wrong if you read the rules you can only enter A CAR (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains)

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