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| | PNLTC did 63 or 65 cars at the Feb '99 GATS show in Portland. We had three engines, but I'm not sure if it was three or five motors total. We had two engines pulling and one pushing at the end. Are all your motors pulling? How do you keep it from (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | Re: Longest train? Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | I would tend to say that when we are talking "longest train" that there ought to be two categories: The "pure" category should require all motors be on contiguous units located at the front (so as to allow multiple units but not allow spacing the (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: Longest train? James Powell
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| | | | (...) What about the real ones with mid train helpers? CP Coal trains in the rockies used to (don't know if they do any more) get 12 3000 HP engines, 4 front, 4 mid, 4 end. They even had a big pileup from a little mistake that they made (and you (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: Longest train? Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | All I have to say to THAT is, we need pictures. (well, OK not ALL... yes I know about CP radio controlled remote helpers, they were among the first, if not THE first, to do this. But my my point is merely that if you're in the "pure" category, all (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: Longest train? James Powell
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| | | | | | (...) Larry, I am up to 71 cars. I will enderver to steal a video camera off one of my friends, and then use there 'putr to digitize the image. The only way to get it to start with 2 motors (yep, 2 is enough, just to run it) is to take slack (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Longest train? Ben Fleskes
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| | | | | | My experience tells me the bigggest factor limiting the length of the train is the number of curves you have and their configuration. Take you same 71 car train and try to drive it through a double s-curve. That is 8 curves one way, then 8 the (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Longest train? James Powell
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| | | | | | (...) I -know- that the train would not make it with HEP only through a curve like that. My upper level is a straight oval, about 25 straights each side. The figures I have seen seem to indicate that a 10 Degree curve has as much drag added as a .3 (...) (25 years ago, 23-Dec-99, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: Longest train? Christopher Masi
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| | | | (...) Is CPCoal Canadian? I saw a show that was talking about trains running through the Canadian rockies. They were using two engines up front, 50 cars, a third engine, and 50 more cars. Lots of cool scenes...like the trains running through the (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: Longest train? James Powell
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| | | | (...) the (...) engine, (...) Tha (...) Yes, that would be Canadian Pacific Railroad, the coal trains. Now they have the 6000HP AC engines doing that work...2.2% ruling grade, and it is hard on the equipment. From what you are saying, that is about (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: Longest train? John Neal
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| | | | | (...) Speaking of CP, I just heard today that BNSF (The merged Burlington Northern and Santa Fe) and Canadian Pacific are merging to form the largest network of track in the world (50,000 miles) and is to be based in Montreal. What next, Coke and (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | Re: Longest train? James Powell
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| | | | | | | Not quite...it is CN and BNSF. :( although, I can see why. The Canadian railways have always had some US feeder lines (CN owned CV and GTW (CN used to be GT :) ). It makes sense, since the 2 railways in Canada compete with each other, and then the (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | Longest railroad (was Re: Longest train? Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | The big question remaining after this shocking news is, will BNSF+CN merge with CSX or NS, as those are the two remaining eastern roads. Whoever they go with, UP is sure to go with the other... at least that's the conventional wisdom in the rail (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | Re: Longest train? Jeremy Sproat
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| | | | | | (...) I hear they'll be moving their headquarters to Florida. Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | Re: Longest train? Christopher Masi
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| | | | (...) snip (...) Ah, I was being vague again. The trains to which I was refering were regular freight trains not coal trains. snip (...) Why 'space'? Is it because your trains become 'rockets' if you send more than 10 cars and 3 engines down at once (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.trains)
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