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    Re: My Sante Fe 10020 —Christopher Tracey
   (...) yes that's true. the upper light is the only one that is lightable. (...) Not really, the lower light is on the SNOT part of the engine construction on a 1x2 center stud tile. (...) Actually, I believe the reverse is protptypical. (...) (23 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: My Sante Fe 10020 —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) That squares with my recollection. For whatever reason, the oscillating ones (which were designed to increase safety at grade crossings, IIRC) were sometimes called "Mars" lights. No idea why. ++Lar (who is kind of amazed at the trivia he's (...) (23 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: My Sante Fe 10020 —Bob Parker
   In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek writes: snip (...) I think that was the name of the manufacturer - the Mars Signal Light Company - Bob (23 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: My Sante Fe 10020 —John Neal
    (...) Also, wasn't that light actually red, as in the "red planet"? I know the Hiawatha Atlantics were retrofitted with red mars lites after they were taken out of mainline service. -John (...) (23 years ago, 25-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: My Sante Fe 10020 —William R. Ward
   (...) Well, the Caltrain commuter rail that runs between San Jose and San Francisco uses only clear (white) lights on the front of the train, and red on the rear. One of the lights (the uppermost one, IIRC) oscillates; the others (two or three, I (...) (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf)
   
        Re: My Sante Fe 10020 —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) The lower 2 non centered of the three non oscillating lights are called "ditch" lights. (...) This is almost completely standard commuter train practice, it's called "push pull" operation. SEMTA, SEPTA, MTA, CTA, Metro North, you name it, they (...) (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf)
   
        Re: My Sante Fe 10020 —Josh Baakko
     (...) They can run steady, or flash also... (...) Odd, & eliminates a turntable... Josh (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf)
   
        Re: My Sante Fe 10020 —William R. Ward
     (...) Thanks. Bear with me, I'm kinda new to all this train stuff. I dabbled in HO as a kid, and am only recently getting interested in LEGO trains. (...) Well I guess I don't get out much then :-/ --Bill. XFUT: back to lugnet.trains (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf)
    
         Re: My Sante Fe 10020 —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) Trains are on the upsurge as a theme among adults (thanks in large part to all the clubs and their activities). And this 10020 both confirms the momentum (why build it if it isn't going to sell?) and will help build that momentum. We have a (...) (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: My Sante Fe 10020 —Tony Hafner
   (...) I've seen the term "push-pull" (in at least one coffee-table type railfan book) used to refer to one locomotive at each end of a consist. Is that incorrect usage of the term, or does it have two completely different meanings? -- Tony Hafner (...) (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: My Sante Fe 10020 —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) I am not sure but I would tend to lean toward both correct, different meanings. Commuter practice puts controls in the ends of "some" (or all) cars so that when the consist is made up a car with a controlset is at the very end of the consist, (...) (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: My Sante Fe 10020 —Josh Baakko
     (...) This is in the dealings of DP, Depositied power... DP is standard in newer North American loco's computers, uses Radio Frequencies, allows the engineer to precisely control the rear engine, taking off slightly slower then the lead loco, to (...) (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: My Sante Fe 10020 —Ross Crawford
      (...) Some coal transport trains in West Aus run with >100 coal trucks, and have loco groups at multiple spots along the train in addition to the front. They also have problems on hill-crests, where the lead locos must reduce power going down the (...) (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: My Sante Fe 10020 —Josh Baakko
      (...) Thats whats so Great about it! I would love to try DCC in Legos & run DP trains... Josh (23 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: My Sante Fe 10020 —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) Whereas I would strongly doubt that they do. DP (Distributed Power) uses radio signals since there are no MU or electrical lines running through the unit train coal cars. Radio is asking for trouble in congested areas with crowded spectrum. (...) (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: My Sante Fe 10020 —Ross Crawford
     (...) Or just someone casting a long line, waiting to catch unwary locos???? ROSCO FUT .fun (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
   
        Re: My Sante Fe 10020 —James Powell
   In lugnet (...) meanings. (...) Yes, push pull generally, as far as I tell, means that the loco(s) are at one end, and there is a control cab at the other end. (...) GO used to do this with F units :). (But, they mostly use the coaches, since the (...) (23 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 

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