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Re: 9v vs 12v
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lugnet.trains
Date: 
Tue, 24 Jul 2001 14:51:09 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Frank Filz writes:
Some disadvantages of 12V:

- The turnouts don't switch electical power which means you can't put a
train in a siding and then isolate it from the main loop (so those
signal tracks are rather necessary).

Not a big deal if I build a larger layout for myself, but for just throwing
together some track for my kids to play with trains it might be a pain.

Even on a big layout it's a pain. Since all sidings are powered all the
time with 12V, you can't have an isolated siding without pulling tricks.
Of course you can have an isolated siding without modifying parts if you
create one stud gaps in the rails. The Technic direction control switch
can be used then to selectively supply power.

I personally rather have the power sidings and use signals to control the
movement of the trains. Layouts shown in the 7777 train book are generally
impossible to recreate in a 9V layout because the sidings need power in
order to run more trains.
pages:
http://www.brickshelf.com/scans/7000/7777/7777-48.html
http://www.brickshelf.com/scans/7000/7777/7777-49.html


I've also considered ways to use the 12V accessories on a 9V system. The
remote crossing gate of course works just fine. The signal set could
also be used, you just need to skip the 12V isolation rails provided,
and provide your own gap (either by cutting 9V track, or by inserting a
1 stud gap). The remote points unfortunately are almost totally useless
(but you can still buy them brand new at the LEGO outlet stores...)

To use the 12V signal, take a look at:
http://members.chello.nl/~f.buiting/lego/trains/signal.html

Henry, other reasons to buy 12V stuff even if you're plan to operate a 9V
layout:
* 12V trains are very nice models and have good selection of parts.
* Cars can run on 9V also
* With the help of a 9V motor as power pickup, you can power the 12V motor
and have the cool moving rods on your steamlocomotive. (A great example of
this technique: http://www.royal-train.com/gallery_kathryn.jpg )
* In most trains the 12V motor can be easily replaced with a 9V one (7740,
7755, 7760) or the motorised tenders can be rebuild on top of a 9V motor.

-Frank



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  Re: 9v vs 12v
 
(...) (you may only need an extra track power connector). Of course given an unlimited budget, I could create a much more enjoyable layout with 12V and be pure since the signal track is very flexible. Ultimately though I think the way to go is to be (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)

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  Re: 9v vs 12v
 
(...) See this post from yesterday on train compatibility for more information: (URL) >- The 12V system has electrical accessories which 9V doesn't have: (...) No command control, though a few folks have adapted DCC for 9V use (it would work equally (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)

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