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  Re: what happened to the Ultimate Train Builders Set and Train Factory Palette?
 
(...) I got the impression that this was going to be early 2006. (19 years ago, 15-Jan-06, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.trains)
 
  what happened to the Ultimate Train Builders Set and Train Factory Palette?
 
Acording to Brickfest 2005, the plan was to release the Ultimate Train Builders Set and the Train Factory palette in 2005. Can someone from TLC (Jake?) comment on why this set (and the factory palette) is not available yet and when it is gooing to (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jan-06, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.trains)
 
  AFX Lego Racing
 
My train layout is fully automated with mindstorm so there was not much to do but watch. That was until I made some Lego race cars with AFX motors. <<img>>(URL) More pictures here <link>(URL) Movie here (12meg) <link>(URL) Visit Bodville online at: (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains) ! 
 
  Re: Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
(...) --SNIP-- (...) Hi all, I'm trying to keep track of informations as it comes on (URL) BrickWiki page>. Please edit it when new information comes to light. It includes information gleaned from here and from Brickish so there may be stuff there (...) (19 years ago, 15-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
what if the operating system was something like the rokenbok line? they have a central hub with hand controllers that use miniature 'walkie talkies' to control individual units. although, commands are only delivered while communication is maintained (...) (19 years ago, 14-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Merry Christmas 2005 pics finally posted:)
 
Happy belated holidays all! Just wanted to share some pics of my holiday diarama and spread the cheer with my favorite bricks:) hope you enjoy! come see them at: (URL) holidays and happy building, chris:) (19 years ago, 14-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.town, lugnet.org.us.delvalug)
 
  9V train motor
 
Hi all, After discovering the hard way (by making an impossible model) that the current electric train motor model has a couple of major mistakes (the wheels are too small and the clips are too small and in the wrong place) I decided to make my own (...) (19 years ago, 14-Jan-06, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Seven wide Koef Shunter
 
(...) It has been brought to my attention that sadly the arches won't work. It seems that the electric train motor DAT is very incorrect (the wheels are too small and the hooks are too low). So if anyone was going to try it, please don't bother. (...) (19 years ago, 14-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
(...) Agreed, and even if your RCXs can tell each other "I sent XX speed signals to the train" there's no guarantee it received them. I would be surprised if the control doesn't have a "stop" button though. ROSCO (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
(...) You've also got the problem that if they work like the volume control on a TV remote (which is likely) the signals are "speed up" and "slow down", not absolute speed values. Since you have no way of knowing whether the train received a (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: modding the new IR trains
 
(...) More like 4x10x~4, or so we've heard, mainly to house the electronics. So, you could do a 4-wide body, so long as it's the same colour as the baseplate! Jason Railton (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.parts.mod, FTX)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
"Tony Hafner" <lego@NOSPAM.hafhead.com> wrote in message news:It1nyG.13w1@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) [ ... snipped ... ] You definitely do not need to point it at the train the whole time. Mike -- Mike Walsh - mike_walsh at (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
(...) Plus a remote is usually in the hands of the controller, so can be re-targetted as necessary - whereas an RCX controller would most likely be fixed to the layout somewhere, and disguised as an object of some kind on the layout. Otherwise you (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: modding the new IR trains
 
I believe that there is a rather large battery box cavity in the interior of the engine above the base plate. Whats nice is that you get to this cavity via the bottom of the train thru the hanging tank. So you have the 6x8 "tank" below, the IR (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.parts.mod, FTX)
 
  Re: Creating a GBC for a train layout, chapter 2
 
(...) Parallel tracks usually have eight studs between them, because that's the spacing you get when you add a siding. It's also the spacing you get if you put cross tracks across them. In fact, the 16x16 cross track is the best piece to work out (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc, lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Addressable IR signal space?
 
(...) I've got a question along these lines: Is there any "addressable space" left over in the messaging system for Manas? In other words, they've already got 3 "channels" implemented as different sets of codes for the Manas. Have they used up all (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
(...) Using the Manas as a practical example, because I can't imagine they're going to completely revamp the IR system... The signal from the Mana remotes works GREAT in a small room with white wall. You can point it in just about any direction and (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
What about ripping out the IR and jumping right to Blue Tooth. This way the NXT can directly control 3 or 4 trains wirelessly (more if you use a hierarchy), as well as many laptops and smart phones! I know tha Blue Tooth is designed to be low power (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: modding the new IR trains
 
(...) (SNIP) (...) (SNIP) (...) (SNIP) (...) I'd like to do a combination of 2, 4 and 7. Take the batteries out, put them in a 4x14 battery box. Use a 9V lead cut in half to connect this to the electronics. Cover over the button of the wrong (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.parts.mod, FTX)
 
  Creating a GBC for a train layout, chapter 2
 
Another apect I was recently thinking about is where tracks usually cross baseplates. For instance, is it "easier" to get a straight section right next to the edge of a 32x32 baseplate, or six studs away? Or eight? Or... what? Does this always have (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc, lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: NXT external power?
 
(...) Yeah but it would have been an expensive option I think. There would have to be a built in DC:DC converter to increase the USB 5 volt supply to the necessary internal 9v. And that means the only about 200mA would have been available internally (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  COLTC at Great train EXpo, Columbus OH, Jan 14-15
 
This weekend, The Central Ohio Lego Train Club will have a ~30 by 30 foot area at the Great Train Expo Show. <www.greattrainexpo.com> We will have a large layout, with no less than 7 train loops. We'll have tall skyscrapers, a new bridge, and a (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.us.oh, lugnet.town, FTX) ! 
 
  Re: modding the new IR trains
 
(...) Might make your wheel spacing awkward, but a good idea. Has anyone tried this with a 9V BASIC motor?. (...) Just putting in some high-capacity NiMH batteries would extend the life from one charge. But, building in a charging socket and circuit (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.parts.mod, FTX)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
(...) A lot of people are still building their collection, and don't want supplies to dwindle and the price of their hobby to go any higher than it already is. That is to say, I don't want my mains trains to be obsolete, but you Mindstorms lot can (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
(...) Actualy, so can a remote. The IR signal from the RCX is fairly "bright" (i.e.- you don't need the RCX pointed right into the Manas IR receive units to function, it can be bounced off other objects). (...) We don't, although I suspect strongly (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
(...) Who makes people believe that old stuff is obsolete as soon as a successor becomes available? To stay ontopic in this .trains area, I'm still using blue tracks and motors and remote controled points (yes blue points!). Still working (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: modding the new IR trains
 
Hi Ondrew, I can make a comment on two related posts here. (...) As I see it 4) and 7) are related since for me they both solve the same problem which is this: seven-wide trains are pretty much ruined by the 6x30 baseplate. Basically it's very (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.parts.mod, FTX)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
(...) Surely the automated sections of the layout can be as complicated and widespread as you have RCXs? You only have one?, that just controls passing at a second station with control on the rest of the layout being down by you, manually (for (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) Yeah, in the original books by the Rev. W Audrey they pretty were much as in the top picture in the link Mark included, with a composite (1st and 3rd class) and a brake coach (for the Guard (Conducter in US speak)and luggage). When the first (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: NXT external power?
 
"Steven Barile" <sebarile@sstanamera.com> wrote in message news:It09u2.CGF@lugnet.com... (...) [ ... snipped ...] USB powered would have been a reasonable compromise, that is too bad. Mike -- Mike Walsh - mike_walsh at mindspring.com (URL) - North (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
Hello (...) Jan Beyer said at the 1000steine-event, that they had to use new moulds for every type of rails, for they want that the new and old ones to fit together. They had to make the new ones a little bit higher, so there is no difference in (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  modding the new IR trains
 
Hey all, Well there has been quite a bit of talk about modifying the yet to be released IR trains so i figured it might be a good idea to consolidate them into one thread. Here’s a little rundown of what I remember as well as my X-ACTO knife (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.parts.mod, FTX)
 
  Re: NXT external power?
 
(...) From this press release: (URL) of the new system include: New 32-bit NXT intelligent brick Rechargeable battery system with A/C plug and then a bunch of boring stuff about sensors, servos, Bluetooth, and such I did notice that it didn't (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
(...) Well, until I buy one and dig into it, I am not going to know how much space there is within the housing. I like RF 'cos it works out of line of sight. As far as different sub-carrier frequencies for IR, there are a number between 25KHz and (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
(...) how difficult do you think it's going to be to convert from IR to RC? this is one of the many things i wouldn't mind trying but i honestly hadn't thought of it before your post. another option is to somehow offset the frequency that the IR (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
(...) I cracked the Manas codes in ten minutes with a photodiode and an oscilloscope. Turned out they were very easy to transmit from the RCX. I suppose TLG could go to the trouble of inventing an entirely new scheme, but why? The only scary thing (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: NXT external power?
 
(...) Look here at picture NXT5. (URL) will see a power entry panel blank coming up from the battery compartment cover plate. It seems possible that an alternate cover might actually contain either a rechargeable battery pack, A/C power supply or (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Thomas Burger and part 6567
 
(...) I have had a reply from Thomas so this part (2x6x2 Train window) is now in the LDraw tracker. (URL) have a look and let me know your thoughts. Thanks (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
Jonathan Reynolds wrote: [...] (...) Man, I loved those old catalogues. In my eyes they were made even more exotic simply due to the fact that we couldn't get any of the 12v stuff here :( When I worked in the Enfield factory in 1986, I even ask the (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
Ross Crawford wrote: [...] (...) RCX Obsolete in 6 months? I program my RCX 1.0 with a 7 year old Mac. Write now I am typing on a 5 year old Mac. Obsolescence is just a point of view :)* Chris *You are correct, I cannot use LEGO Factory on either of (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
(...) The problem you're gonna find is that the RCX can only point in 1 direction at once. Unless you have many spaced around your layout, you're not gonna be able to control the trains at every point on the layout. That may not be a problem - if (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: NXT external power?
 
I played with the NXT and spoke with the product manager at CES. There is NO AC plug on the NXT, nor can it be powered via USB. SteveB (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
(...) We've been asked for info/catalogues on Lego trains at every train show. They simply are not available in the usual retail outlets which explains why we get the same comment at every train show; "I didn't know Lego made trains".Unfortunately (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
Also if the RCX is NOT directly powering the trains then the RCX 1.0 (with AC jack) isn't manditory. I would love to see the IR train be controled by the RCX. Is reverse engineering the IR codes for the IR train hard to do? Should I try to get the (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) LOL That's hilarious, but so true! Our Thomas at shows is a veritable kid-magnet and the reason why we devote a special section of our layout to the TtTE characters. BTW, your proto MOCs are definitely awesome! JOHN (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) Ok, I'm a bit confused. Annie and Clarabel are SUPPOSED to be longer, 4-axle cars? Russell BayLTC (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) When I was at Legoworld, I soon learned that if I wanted the kids to crowd around I only had to run my green and red Percy with a small matching orange wagon: (2 URLs) Salt Wagon>> Chasing the Rocket and/or Penydarren around the same track: (2 (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
(...) I'm saving up to buy an NXT - at Developer's Special, or full retail, I'll likely get one the first chance I get. But I'm not remotely thinking the RCX will be "obsolete" in 6 months. One, the NXT doesn't have IR... yet. It wouldn't surprise (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) 30 studs would be very long for Annie and Clarabel - I was thinking of trying an MOT 24-stud baseplate. After all, they must have some use (other than a Palethorpe's Pork Sausage three-axle van of course). Maybe you could get away with BBB (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
(...) It'd be a nice nostalgic moment to see a battery tender version of the IR system, based on a short wheelbase. If you take a hacksaw to this one, your wheelbase is still going to be a minimum of 14 studs long, if you have the wheels right at (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)
 
  Re: New Trains and BBB Wheels? (was: Re: Still more)
 
(...) That would seem to be correct, but you're forgetting that if you put big wheels on the battery motor, and connect it to a 9V motor with its small wheels, they'll try to go at different speeds (assuming, as has been suggested, that the motor (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Trains and BBB Wheels? (was: Re: Still more)
 
(...) I wonder if you could use the new IR motor in a steam engine, driving the drivers, and an old 9V motor in the tender. With a wire between the two, you could have a double-powerful steam engine, with powered drivers and standard transformer (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
(...) Also, for locomotices, the IR plate could be used on rolling stock pulled by a shorter loco (this is how most of the old 4.5v trains worked). Doesn't wor for trolleys though :( (...) Except the RCX will be obsolete in 6 months, and the NXT (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains // more new infos as quoted from 1000steine
 
(...) Having seen a production unit (as well as sensors) I haven't been able to discover any external power jack. I was allowed by Jan Beyer to make pics and have posted them here : (URL) Jan-Albert van Ree | (URL) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  New Trains and BBB Wheels? (was: Re: Still more)
 
(...) Good question. I'm eager to order a set and find out how BBB wheels will do with the new battery powered trains. I've tried BBB wheels with the 845 motor: (URL) Which easily accepts a technic axle. With large BBB drivers, at 9V the speed is a (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.year.2006, FTX)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
(...) Note that for the strong of heart, this might still allow smaller trolleys... with some ABS shavings. But hacking the motor to allow RP and IR controlability seems a likely direction in any event. (...) Or even when you aren't. The biggest (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  NXT external power?
 
(...) Tony- Huh? The Wired article specifically mentioned that the user group lobbied hard for an external power port but did not get one. -Ted (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Thoughts on Battery-powered IR-controlled trains
 
My thoughts on the new battery-powered IR-controlled trains (BPIR trains)... First a quick summary of the reports that I've read here on lugnet.trains. 1. IR controller has three different channels. a. IR controller can switch between channels or (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Re: Still more
 
(...) Hmm, does this mean the new motor could drive BBB wheels directly? That would be way cool for steam designers. Frank (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.year.2006)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains // more new infos as quoted from 1000steine
 
(...) If you have an rail-powered train running constantly on each track and augment the layout by manually running an IR train on each track as well, then a set of batteries will easily get you through a day at most shows. Use rechargeable (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  My first entry: Moscow Metro station entrance
 
(...) This is my first entry to the town structures contest: a rendition of a Moscow Metro station entrance. It's 100% available and I plan to add one to a planned dioarama (with the underground level as well). (URL) If you would like more angles to (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.town, lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Seven wide Koef Shunter
 
(...) I've enough 9v stuff to keep me going for a bit but I take your point regarding the IR trains - difficult but not impossible in 7-wide. I also look on 7-wide as a wide 6-wide. I've seen some very convincing MOC examples and note that you can (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Seven wide Koef Shunter
 
(...) Tim, I've got to say, even though it has alread been said, great shunter. Chris (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Seven wide Koef Shunter
 
(...) Hi Jon, Thanks for your comments. I agree about smaller models being more fun. I love having to find ways around problems that would be so simple to solve in eight-wide or larger. But... don't get into seven-wide!!! Seven-wide is pretty much (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains // more new infos as quoted from 1000steine
 
Six hours? Seems a rather horrid endurance to me, certainly in terms of shows... But if the IR can be used with the metal motors, that oughta be fairly interesting. Though no additional wires, soo.... Hm. I want to get my hands on one of these (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Seven wide Koef Shunter
 
(...) Looks great, Tim. I think the smaller models require more clever bits to be convincing such as the use of the 1x6 arches. 7-wide is beginning to grow on me too! Jon (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) Moving from 4.5v to 12v had 'added value' in providing better control, many new features such as electric points, crossings etc. but more than anything else, it was the new expanding range which provided the most promise. If there is no 'new (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  New Crane Car MPD format
 
Hi all, I was a little bored this morning so I did up a CAD for the new train crane. I left off the bars in the middle since I couldn't get a decent look at them and they seemed to represent junk anyway so I figured people could do their own. Also (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) In the past 4.5V trains could have short baseplates with a 4 or 6 wheeled motor only. The now IR trains can only have 8 wheels and only a 30 stud long baseplate. In the past even 12V trains could be converted to 4.5V. Now not all 9V trains can (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Seven wide Koef Shunter
 
--SNIP-- (...) Hi Ondrew, Thanks for your comments. Here is the (URL). I'll make some instructions some time soon. Tim (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) Hear, hear, those four wheeled Annie and Clarabels are a travesty created by the TV series ;-) (...) <SNIP> There (...) I think the 'with holes' one, Its backward compatible even if it doesn't look as good. Tim (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: The New Crane Car & Green Parts
 
"Joseph A. O'Donnell" <JAODonnellPE@msn.com> wrote in message news:Isy0En.4Ey@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) Late summer I believe is the release date for the new Trains. Seems like things are coming out a little earlier than their target (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: The New Crane Car
 
"Joseph A. O'Donnell" <JAODonnellPE@msn.com> wrote in message news:IsxnIC.1AE4@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) [ ... snipped ... ] You may be able to gather more detail from this PDF: (URL) can zoom in on it pretty tight! Mike -- Mike Walsh (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Still more
 
"Mathew Clayson" <mathew_impact1@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:Isn9pM.B4C@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) [ ... snipped ... ] The battery container, the IR receiver, and the baseplate are all one unit. The motor is a separate unit, same (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.year.2006)
 
  Re: Seven wide Koef Shunter
 
(...) hey tim, very very well done! there are tons of details as there should be, and the 1x6 arch solution is something that would have probably taken me a month to think of. very cool. i'm wondering if you could post the ldraw file for this moc. (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Seven wide Koef Shunter
 
Hi all, Just sneaking an MOC in here between all the discussions on the new release sets. It's a little Koef shunter (switcher) which I built at seven-wide thinking at first it was a wide gauge train. (2 URLs) BS gallery> The trick on this is the (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.announce.moc, lugnet.loc.de, FTX) ! 
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) To play devil's advocate for a moment - how is the situation different from the conversion from 4.5V to 12V? That needed conductor rails, points, crossing, motor and transformer. In cost terms, including average inflation of 3% for 16 years (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) Surely for a Thomas train, if you make the bogie versions, Annie or Clarabel could use the IR unit baseplate? (URL) Then Thomas could be made using BBB wheels and he could have working rods too. I think it will be possible to bury the new IR (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: The New Crane Car & Green Parts
 
(...) We may not be able to easily build red 4551s, but I will definitely build a GREEN one! The first two crane cars will probably go into the collection as designed. But then, we may have a good lifting device for a harbor or freight yard or ??. (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: The New Crane Car
 
Yes, the new crane car is quite nice and I look forward to adding it to my collection. Another thing that has been looked over with the new sets is the part selection. While the IR based motor and battery bound baseplate are not ideal, the parts in (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  The New Crane Car
 
The new crane car seems to have been overlooked in all the discussion of the possible demise of the 9v system. It (they...at least two) will be added to my collection as soon as it hits the street or S@H. I started to build an ldraw model of it but (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains
 
"John" <John@TCLTC.org> wrote in message news:IsqHwF.1CFA@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) In the US, a battery operated toy can be labeled for a much younger age than one which plugs into an AC outlet. I believe the minimum age for (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Hobby Train - the no future train....
 
(...) Got that right. Long live the community!!! Seems like now it may be the only thing keeping 9v from going kaput!! TRAINS!!!!!! M (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
Mike Walsh posted a link on the ILTCO list which has a much cleaner image. (URL) It appears that the dummy engine on the ICE train is 6 studs shorter then the working engine. They used a lt grey curved slope to fill in a gap. A small detail I hadn't (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains // more new infos as quoted from 1000steine
 
"Reinhard "Ben" Beneke" <ben@1000steine.SPAM-block.com> wrote in message news:IsuFqK.21G6@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) Maybe, maybe not. It is entirely possible LEGO will have a cable with the new RJ jack on one end and the traditional (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
"Mathew Clayson" <mathew_impact1@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:Isw0Dr.1qw0@lugnet.com... (...) [ ... snipped ... ] (...) I agree completely. LEGO could (should?) take a lesson from the Brio/Thomas market. The reason it is successful is because (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains
 
(...) I'm hoping these aren't using the same signal encoding as the Manas- they've already reused those on some IR cars as well. I'd really like to be able to control Mana-powered devices on a layout independently from the trains. And as long as the (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) But moving to 9v from 4.5v gave you significant advantages and was an upgrade which added value. The new trains are already good - remote control, sound, cheap track, reverse loop capabilities, cab control etc. so the change to 9v rail powered (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) I did, I started out with 4.5v, and moved to 9v when it came out. What I don't understand is the decision to produce a $100+ set whith this new technology, as a first kit. I thought the whole point was to produce a $50 set to get into the (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  4W is cute!
 
Hi all, Cute sized 12V trains here: (URL) no idea what the text is about... Steve, can you help us out? ;-) Jeroen (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) I'm no expert on the manufacturing process but I'd like to know if they have altered all the moulds for the track pieces and the clip-on motor frames. If these are completely new moulds then it shows there is a future supply potential for the (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Hobby Train - the no future train....
 
(...) I should have added that now is a very good time for trains too, but ironically, the good times I am talking about are all the train/LEGO clubs and the still active on-line community. Chris (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) Agreed! I posted earlier that this 30 stud base totally wipes out all those cool Thomas and little trolley models. (Which, incidently, are amongst the most popular items we (LUCNY) run around the tracks at shows per visitor requests.) Even the (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Hobby Train - the no future train....
 
(...) Jumping in my way back machine, I remember when they had the battery powered 7722, a station, and a level crossing in the train section of TRU. It was just too cool. The ealy 90's were great too. My wife (then girfriend) bought me my 4563 the (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) I think there is a difference between TLG carrying on making and supplying parts for 9v trains and going to the trouble to design and release sets. From my own perspective, keeping me supplied with 9v train parts is 1000 times more important (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) I suppose (and it would have made more sense to check your reply before adding my other one - I'm splitting my own train of thought here) that the new IR base length makes it harder for LEGO to produce a new engine that can sell on its own (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) There's still no definite answer. LEGO might not be willing to commit themselves. Think about it - if they said they'll supply 9V track forever, they can't keep that promise. If they say they'll make it for 2 more years, there'll be uproar (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) Both. I guess what I'm asking is whether the entire, current 9v train line will be continued; produced alongside the new line of trains. (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) I feel compelled to ask; do you really mean "sets" or do you mean supplies of track, switches, 9v train motors, wheel sets and buffer beams, and perhaps track connecting wires and controllers? JB (19 years ago, 9-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) Forgive me if it has been covered before, but the primary question I'd like to ask is whether TLC will continue to produce the old 9v track and 9v motors - and then, if so, will new sets be released based on those old units? Thanks, Derek (19 years ago, 9-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)


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