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Re: Pneumatic "One Leg at a Time" Robot Circuit
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Tue, 13 Sep 2005 23:15:19 GMT
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In lugnet.technic, Mark Bellis wrote:
In lugnet.technic, Kevin L. Clague wrote:
In lugnet.technic, Mark Bellis wrote:
A while ago I saw an electric robot on TV that had 6 legs in 2 rows of 3 and
moved one leg at a time forwards (lift, forward, down), then all back together.

I thought this is an ideal application for Lego pneumatics.

(SNIP)

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/mbellis/Technic/Pneumatics/Building-Blocks/pneumatic_one_leg_at_a_time_robot_circuit.jpg

There are 5n+3 steps in the cycle, where n is the number of legs.  The circuit
uses 3n+1 (or 4n+1) cylinders and 7n+2 valve switches.

Load bearing is accommodated by the fact that all the legs share the weight, so
if a small pressure drop occurs when a raised foot is lowered, all the other
feet would rise a bit rather than one leg rising all the way, and it would equal
out by the time the raised foot was fully lowered.

As well as walking robots, this circuit lends itself to any function that
requires several sub-systems to operate in sequence, with a global reset at the
end.

Mark

Hi Mark,

  Now I know what to build next..... a four legged walker that lifts one leg at
a time.  On paper it looks like I can get one made for 1+2n pistons and 2+4n
switches.  This assumes that legs mechanically lock when weight bearing. I don't
use pneumatic differential pair logic when making walkers.  I stick with single
switch AND gates that Mark Terrabain turned me on to.

  In general I don't think that differential pair logic is the most cost
effective way to build sequencers because they are so much more expensive to
implement.

Kev

This one has moved away from my usual differential logic.  Each leg module has a
flip-flop for the foot and hip, which does 3 out of 4 movements and waits for
the fourth to be done all legs together.

I see how single switch AND gates work for several legs in parallel, but this
robot is one leg at a time, which has a greater overhead of pneumatic parts.
Perhaps using 3 leg modules with a few single switch AND gates would make a
decent 6-legged 2 at a time robot.  It doesn't have the same steering capability
that you've added with reversers though, but it was directly modelled on the
robot I saw, rather than the ideal function.

I understand that leg 0 is moved up forward then down, leg 1 is moved
up/forward/down, leg2 is moved up/forward/down, leg 3 is moved up/forward/down,
and finally leg 0, leg 1, leg 2 and leg3 are moved back.

I don't quite understand why you think the above design is not amenable to using
single switch AND gates.

I've done a paper design, but the proof is in the pudding, so I'll make that
uses the single switch AND gates.

I just happen to have four legs that just waiting for a reason to walk.


I had a surprise the other day.  Looking on my old computer I discovered that
I'd drawn a 1+4 AND gate for myself long before I joined the online community!
I wouldn't quibble about credits, though it just shows how great minds think
alike!  The discovery was not a surprise in one sense, because I wondered how I
had developed my octopus arm without first making an AND gate.  The octopus arm
is an old design too, but it combines single and differential logic.  I think I
drew a first circuit sketch and then minimised it, probably removing a third of
the switches!

Quibbling about credit wouldn't do any good, because my invention was
independent from yours.  I've never had access to your computer so clealy mine
was independent ;^)  It is interesting that it took you so long to recognize my
1+4 as a valid AND gate (even though you already invented it and forgot)


Mark

Kev



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  Re: Pneumatic "One Leg at a Time" Robot Circuit
 
(...) How many different 'designs' could one come up with for an AND gate in LEGO pnuematics anyway? -Rob www.brickmodder.net (19 years ago, 14-Sep-05, to lugnet.technic)

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(...) (SNIP) (...) This one has moved away from my usual differential logic. Each leg module has a flip-flop for the foot and hip, which does 3 out of 4 movements and waits for the fourth to be done all legs together. I see how single switch AND (...) (19 years ago, 13-Sep-05, to lugnet.technic)

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