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(...) There are no 2003 TECHNIC sets that have studed beams. There certainly are non-TECHNIC sets that have them (...) So you are ALL or NOTHING. This is fine on a set by set basis, but not across the entire product line. (...) With the 2003 TECHNIC (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic, FTX)
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(...) Everyone can see that the two systems have their own advantages and that combining the two gives the advantages of both, but thats not the problem. The problem is that the 2003 sets had NO studded beams. (...) Having a few studded beams in a (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic, FTX)
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(...) Then I'm concerned for them too. Maybe LEGO will go back to them as it is shifting back to its core product lines. Steven is right. They are more open to input right now that they have been in a long time. Kevin (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
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Hi Kevin, (...) I think this misunderstanding arose from my bad pidgin english, I should have stressed that 'only studless' phrase. (...) I've recently re-built my 8479 Barcode Truck - this is a 'traditional' set and I can bet, that taking few first (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Replying to myself, phew ;-) AFAIK in Technic, last sets containing studded beams are 3804 RIS2.0 (2001), 8466 4x4Offroader (2001) & 8461 Williams (2002). 8431 Crane Truck (2002) doesn't count, as it is a re-release. Sets for 2003: 8441 (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Hi Jindrich, Thanks for your open minded responses. <snip> (...) I guess my long winded post was unneccessary...... Wimpy beams have been getting a lot of grief lately, so I guess I had pent up energy about that. Wimpy beams provide no new (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Before I start, I'm taking three big deep breaths and relaxing.... I've got a lot of energy on this topic. Jindrich, I understand and respect why you don't like the studless beams, so please don't take this post as though I don't. (...) (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) My 'technical' english is quite bad, but... They use it for steering. On of those is on the axle, driven by the 'siren' on the roof, it turns two other which are on 90-degree angle, each one connected to short arm with towball axle which is (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Not sure how it's used in the backhoe, but I can think of two nice things about it: (a) two can work together at any opening angle, forming a bevel gear set at non-90-degree angles, and (b) with the studless construction, two of these form a (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Agreed, and I wrote that in my original message. (...) Agreed. (...) Peeron is down right now. I'll try to do a search as it goes up. But looking in the 2003 catalog, none of the 'Technic' sets seem to have them. Don't know about Bionicle/Star (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) I would agree, it's much more in-line with the way I think and build... but that's at least partially due to my history with LEGO. My 6-year-old son uses both styles, and even in his "regular" (non-technic) builds incorperates the pin and SNOT (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) It is my belief that Technic studded beams will always be around, as long as technic is around. There are too many advantages of studded beams over studless beams for them to go away. So for me that is a non-issue. Studless beams have (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic, FTX)
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(...) It is a gear that is highly resistant to slip. Since the teeth interlock so much it cannot slip without a very huge failure. Kevin (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Hi Jindrich, I have the advantage that my first set as an adult was the RIS. This comes with studded and studless beams. I started out using both, so the whole studless beam issues is not an issue for me. I've made a *lot* of MOCs with (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
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In lugnet.technic, Jindrich Kubec wrote: It's like you read my mind. I'd been wondering for the last few days the best way to raise this very subject, the inferiority of the new Technic system. (...) This is the key question, somthing I was going to (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) It's obvious to me he means that. (...) Your more wrong Allen, than Lego was to change the shade of gray. There are few enough really good models posted here already without another level of complication slowing us down. We depend on the (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic, FTX)
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(...) I'm curious about your question. When you ask about Technic bricks being replaced by the studless beams, do you mean that you don't think there are any studded bricks out there at all? If so, perhaps you should try some of the Designer sets or (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Me too. I got mine the other day. (...) Nope, can't understand that either. This is a very odd phenomenon, and one only seen in one other set (AFAIK), the Dark Side Developer Kit (...) The reason for the colour of those parts (Technic axle pin (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic, FTX)
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Hi, last of my today's spam flood ;-) As I've built Backhoe yesterday, I still don't get that Lego move. Why did they replace _ALL_ technic bricks with studless beams? I think that the beams have 'right to live', for styling the outer parts they're (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
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Hi, anybody understands real purpose of part 32072: (URL) built backhoe yesterday and I still don't get it, why they haven't used something more traditional there? It would have been 'slower'? Is something like that used in the real world? (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.technic)
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