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Re: Concerns with Racial Attitudes and Lego
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lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:22:38 GMT
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In lugnet.starwars, David Low writes:

(snipping intersting comments that stand fine without need of further comments
from me)

> > Lego has basically four options:
> > 
> > 1. If they don't make a bright yellow Lando or Mace figure, Lego has made a
> > racial statement and lacked the courage of their convictions.
> > 
> > 2. If the public does not accept bright yellow Lando/Maces if they do come
> > out, then that should be a clue that they need to rethink their bright • yellow
> > policy.
> > 
> > 3. If they come out, but not as bright yellow, then they have not had the
> > courage of their convictions, and they should rethink their bright yellow
> > policy.
> > 
> > 4. If they come out with the figs and the public accepts them, then they are
> > vindicated (but since they avoid public explanation of their policy, what • are
> > the odds this will happen).  I think that if they really believe in their
> > policy, they need to bring these figures out in bright yellow.  Maybe they • are
> > right!
> 
> I'm not convinced that Lego needs to make a DSM to represent Lando or Mace
> Windu. The characters are played by black actors, but just as in Legoland
> human races don't seem to really exist in the SW universe. This is just my
> POV, and some people may argue that the physical attributes of the actors are
> transferred directly onto the fictional characters they play. Given that human
> races really do exist in our universe, and Lego has taken to making minifigs
> that represent real humans (eg Zidane, Speilberg), the DSM question isn't
> going to go away.

I'm not convinced their needs to be a DSM (I'm just using the term out of
convenience, BTW) Lando or Mace, either.  Perhaps a standard yellow Lando is
on the way for the third year - Han didn't appear until the second year.  I
just think it would be wrong to try and dodge the isssue by not making a
Lando.

> 
> Bruce has stated the available options well. I sincerely hope that Lego goes
> with option 4, and is fully prepared to support their action. Option 3, which
> seems to be popular, is IMHO the worst possibility. What position would this
> leave Lego in?

I just don't see option three happening unless they really are going to
rethink the whole all-yellow policy.  Personally, I don't think they are going
to break with tradition.  Option 1 is more likely than 3, but oddly sadder.

> "Sure there are DSMs in the Star Wars universe, but they're just there because
> there are black people in the SW universe. You see, white people are yellow,
> and black people are DS. But there aren't any black people in Legoland, and
> that's why the minifigs we've been making for nearly 25 years have always been
> yellow. Because really, they're white."
> 
> The only DSM argument I find compelling is that the current lack of DSMs
> discourages some kids from identifying with Lego, since they can't see
> themselves in the place of the minifigs. But before they make DSMs, maybe Lego
> can have a proper think about the patriarchal Aryan trash they market as
> Belville.
> 
> --Dave

I don't know if it discourages them so much as they would be happier with
something "closer" to themselves.  I'm sure psychologists would have boatloads
to say about self-image and self-worth, but unlike when I was a child (when
minifigs didn't exist anyway) there's a lot more toys that reflect diversity
so I doubt there is as much (if any) impact.

Bruce



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  Re: Concerns with Racial Attitudes and Lego
 
(...) Uh, it's worth pointing out that the "yellow represents all races" thing is *not* the official TLC line. It's something that people have said to attempt to explain the fact that there are only yellow minifigs. eric (26 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) and (...) I think the contrast between System minifigs and Duplo figs is important. Having Duplo figs with different flesh tones and different sizes reinforces for kids the importance of diversity. People are different colours and adults are (...) (26 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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