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Andrew & All, (...) Speaking of the Empire, my biggest complaint with the SW universe, where I am talking about movies, and not the books, etc. I am not familiar with them, is that the Empire is really ignorant / dumb/ etc. There are so many (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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In lugnet.starwars, Scott Edward Sanburn writes: SNIP (...) That is because they are the Villains of the story. Villainy never wins in the end because of many factors, the most important one being "Evil never Prospers". This was an unwritten code in (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) Well, when you consider that Sidious acheived all his goals in Episode I, without anyone even *realising* it, I'd say chances are good that he'll continue to kick... err, rear. eric (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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<snip> Loads of stuff about the Empire. </snip> And has anyone else noticed that just about every single member of the Empire is played by a British actor and the rebels are nearly all American? George -- what are you trying to say? F (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) EVIL British. ;) I think it was just to have a difference between the Empire and the Rebels. Scott S. ___...___ Scott E. Sanburn-> ssanburn@cleanweb.net Systems Administrator-Affiliated Engineers -> (URL) Page -> (URL) Page -> (URL) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) True -- but then it is odd that the rebels would have a different accent. Surely everyone is a member of the Empire until they rebel -- so they should be pretty much the same. Is there anything in the "literature" that hints that the rebels (...) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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Then explain the princess's pseudo british accent at the beginning of episode 4 - which turns into non-existent by the end of the movie... ??? EC (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) I think that one reason that this happens is because it is just plain easier to make the bad guys dufuses (I have no idea how to spell that - maybe dufusi?). It takes more talent, more creativity, more effort, more patience, to make the bad (...) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) I think that Americans tend to associate the British accent with formality and sophistication; sort of the regal by-the-book British officer character. This stereotype (or so I suppose it could be called) fits well with the characteristics of (...) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) I suspect that since the plural of virus is virii, then the plural of dufus must be dufii, right? :) Adrian -- (URL) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) I would argue that making the plural of 'doofus' something that a doofus would never think of is sort of doofus-like. *grin* <hayseed> Back home in 'Lasker the plural of "doofus" was "politicians". </hayseed> -Cheese (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) It's just the military officers. The stormtroopers have a normal accent. So it's that formality thing. Which sort of explains Sir Alec Guinness. Formal, you know. Steve (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) adds (...) EP (...) Princess Leia speaks with a faux-british accent in parts of ST:ANH, so the "british accent as signifier of evil" theory doesn't quite pan out across the board. Not to mention that James Earl Jones doesn't have much of a (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) And in doing so, Lucas betrays how much he was influenced by Hollywood, while all the while claiming to dislike the place. Using Brits for the (generally evil) overlords and Americans for the (generally good) oppressed underclass is a (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) I don't think ANYBODY could explain that accent. Dick van Dyke could do a better English accent than that. F (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) I thought most of the episodes were shot in England, thus if you need a few more speaking characters (not the major actors), you call the London talent agency. I don't recall a lot of non-stars on the rebel side, who was there, Wedge, one or (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) Wedge, Biggs, Porkins, Gold Leader, all the other guys who got wiped out in the assault on the Death Star...in the later films Mon Mothma and Admiral Ackbar...the guy who was in charge of the Hoth base, Dack (Luke's snowspeeder copilot)... (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) Heh, funny thing about this... I recently had the opportunity to have a beer with Jeremy Bulloch (Boba Fett) after a fan convention. He was really amazed at the quasi-celebrity he now enjoys at fan shows simply because he wore some plastic (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) That's pretty cool! But it just goes to show you: you never know what just might prove to be your perpetual meal ticket. Maybe some people assume that being inside the suit meant that he somehow "knew" Fett? I'm not sure it's that different (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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(...) might (...) inside (...) from (...) For those who want to see the man inside the mask, Jeremy is visible in another Cloud City scene... He's the imperial officer who uses Leia as a shield when she yells, "Luke! It's a Trap!" ~M (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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