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Re: Wings [was: Re: Building big]
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lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au
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Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:54:56 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
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> Hi!
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> Warning! Warning! Bibliographical references ahead! Warning!
> Danger, danger Will Robinson!
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> In lugnet.space, Jesse Alan Long writes:
> > In lugnet.space, Duane Hess writes:
> > > In lugnet.space, Duane Hess writes:
> > > > In lugnet.space, Jesse Alan Long writes:
> > > > > Perhaps Mister Tito ate some food that he should not have ate before
> > > > > entering space?
> > > >
> > > > > The reason that the International Space Station, or Mir
> > > > > before that system, do not spin around as a person would expect is that the
> > > > > giant solar panels also serve as a type of stabilizing mechanism for the
> > > > > system and if the ISS or Mir do spin in orbit, that is because they are
> > > > > STATIONARY and do not MOVE through space except in an artificial orbit and
> > > > > thus the rules of space flight do not apply to these systems because they
> > > > > are stationary and wings and other similar mechanisms DO help stabilize
> > > > > structures in outer space from needless spinning in space. I am sorry,
> > > > > John, I emphasized what I said that was important and I did not yell at you
> > > > > but I want you to consider those points before you reply with your next >letter.
> > > > > Jesse Long
> > > >
> > > > The "wings" on the ISS (or Mir) are not there to help stabilize the station,
> > > > they are there to increase the surface area of the solar panels to provide
> > > > electrical power to the station. There are other control systems which keep
> > > > the station from revolving, which would be a bad thing.
> > > >
> > > > -Duane
> > >
> > > For more information on the ISS see: http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/station/
> > >
> > > -Duane
> > Thank you for correcting me, Duane, but I also have those control systems
> > that will accomplish the same features on my space craft and, as stated many
> > times before in other posts, the wings are another source of power for the
> > space craft.
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> I've seen you mention that, but I'm wondering what the principle
> is you're employing for wing-generated power. Usually the
> solutions one sees for power-generation are radial, i.e. scoops
> or ionizing webs, made large to use whatever minimal material
> exists in the ICM (Intercloud Medium).
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> You might want to look at a couple books, by the way, that you
> (or any .space builder!) might find interesting and a source of
> ideas:
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> -Gregory Matloff and Eugene Mallove, _The Starflight Handbook_
> (New York: Wiley, 1989) -- generally accepted to be the "standard
> reference" on theoretical non-FTL starflight concepts and mechanics
> and may be in a newer edition, but little of what's in there has
> changed in the last 12 years; and
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> -Adrian Berry, _The Giant Leap: Mankind Heads for the Stars_
> (London: Headline, 2000) -- a good source of references and
> a readable general discussion of the problems and possible
> solutions for starflight, including some material on FTL
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> If nothing else, they're enjoyable reads, but they've changed
> my thinking on "realistic" starflight. Pick 'em up if you
> can, they're worth buying just to have around!
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> best
>
> LFB
The first sentence in your reply letter made me laugh, although I do not
have any idea in my head why you said that to me but at least it is better
to laugh than to have a brawl on the bulletin boards as has been the
situation for several days. I guess I should have introduced myself better
but I have several problems with family and friends and when your stepfather
speaks more obscentities (which I believe that my parents, especially my
stepfather, are even less sincere about their faith than I am in my life, I
am merely confused about my faith but that is another discussion that
belongs in another place on another chat room) than an episode of Jerry
Springer when you try to create art out of LEGO bricks and LEGO plates, you
do not need other people to try and have the same attitude when you try to
show the rest of the world your form of LEGO art in life.
I have sen you say that you know of this type of construction referred to as
radial scoops or ionizing webs and some vague term referred to as a
intercloud medium so please explain these concepts to me because I do not
think that my library has these books that you mentioned so I apologize for
that inconvenience, Lindsay, but I do appreciate the time that you have
taken for telling me about these books and I will try and see if the library
has these books.
Jesse Long
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