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Re: Training OmniRemote for RCX commands
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Mon, 13 Dec 1999 14:35:25 GMT
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In lugnet.robotics.palm, Mike Kory writes:
> Ed,
> yes the RCX is acknowledging most commands. It does not do this with the
> commands used in LRemote (http://www.advancenet.net/~kory/pilot/ -- I'm
> stuck on the old name too, for the same reason).
> The motor commands used in LRemote are repeating commands. As long as you
> hold down the button, the commands are sent. When you release the button,
> the commands stop sending and the bot stops.
OK.
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> Do you have a way to train using these commands (a Lego remote, or two
> Pilots--one to run LRemote and one to train)?
Yes, I do. That's going to be my next step.
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> IrDA is not compatible, you wont get any insight going to those sites.
OK. Thanks for the appropriate re-direction. No sense wasting time figuring
out another protocol just yet if it doesn't even come into play.
> I've just ordered a train to put under our xmas tree. I'm quite interested
> in hearing what you are doing to control the trains.
I'm working on a layout to publish just to get the ball rolling. It involves
an automated layout with a siding to putt around and retrieve train cars from
it after certain RCX input conditions are met. Uses a standard LEGO-only
implementation, of course ;^)
> Mike
Thanks, Mike!
Ed
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> Ed McGlynn <ejmcglynn@juno.com> wrote in message
> news:FMLK5s.MCD@lugnet.com...
> > Mike, Robert -
> >
> > Thanks for your wealth of insight on this. I'm starting to come up to • speed,
> > I think.
> > So, the RCX is acknowledging the IR tower command string, based on receipt • of
> > a EOS of some sort, perhaps, and OmniRemote can't process that ACK? I'll
> > re-read your posts again, and check out IrDA protocol sites to get a • handle on
> > this. Or, maybe LEGO just uses it's own protocol that OmniRemote can't
> > 100% emunlate through a training session. I think you've both discussed • the
> > need for low-level IR command processing on the Pilot - sorry - old trade
> > name, I know, but I've had one since their initial retail release and I • can't
> > give up old ways.
> >
> > Thanks again, and I'm off to tinker a bit more...
> >
> > ...by the way, my goal is a remote controlled LEGO train layout for some
> > upcoming model train shows I'll be attending. It helps to promote LEGO in • any
> > cool way you can think of. While lots of people comment to me "I didn't • know
> > LEGO made trains" I want to go beyond that and have them say "I didn't • know
> > LEGO made trains - and you can control them remotely with a Pilot!"
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > In lugnet.robotics.palm, Mike Kory writes:
> > > I'm not 100% positive, but I don't think you need the button release • command
> > > if you are just using motor control commands.
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Robert Eddings <webmake@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > > news:38513125.D77D9B64@bellsouth.net...
> > > > Mike Kory wrote:
> > > > > I don't have OmniRemote but this may help.
> > > > > The normal RCX commands are not consistent. When you send the same • command
> > > > > repeatedly, the command is slightly different on alternate commands. • In
> > > > > other words the first time it sends "A" then "B" then back to "A" • then
> > > "B"
> > > > > etc. Also, the RCX sends commands back to the Tower on normal • commands.
> > > This
> > > > > may also cause some confusion.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you use the Remote Control commands you can get around all of • these
> > > > > problems. They are always the same and the RCX doesn't send a • response.
> > > > >
> > > > > --Mike
> > > >
> > > > That's good advice. I forgot to mention to Ed that having the RCX on
> > > > will confuse OmniRemote because of the return IR from the RCX. The
> > > > problem I have found with using the LEGO remote commands to train
> > > > OmniRemote is the final d2 command (0x0000) that is needed at the end • of
> > > > the command chain. The LEGO remote control repeats the action command
> > > > while the button is pressed and then sends the 0x0000 on button • release.
> > > > OmniRemote cannot duplicate this because it does not send "on button
> > > > release" signals. OmniRemote does allow macro commands to be assigned • to
> > > > buttons but I don't see how this could help.
> > > >
> > > > Robert Eddings
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