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Re: Training OmniRemote for RCX commands
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Sat, 11 Dec 1999 22:08:16 GMT
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Mike, Robert -
Thanks for your wealth of insight on this. I'm starting to come up to speed,
I think.
So, the RCX is acknowledging the IR tower command string, based on receipt of
a EOS of some sort, perhaps, and OmniRemote can't process that ACK? I'll
re-read your posts again, and check out IrDA protocol sites to get a handle on
this. Or, maybe LEGO just uses it's own protocol that OmniRemote can't
100% emunlate through a training session. I think you've both discussed the
need for low-level IR command processing on the Pilot - sorry - old trade
name, I know, but I've had one since their initial retail release and I can't
give up old ways.
Thanks again, and I'm off to tinker a bit more...
...by the way, my goal is a remote controlled LEGO train layout for some
upcoming model train shows I'll be attending. It helps to promote LEGO in any
cool way you can think of. While lots of people comment to me "I didn't know
LEGO made trains" I want to go beyond that and have them say "I didn't know
LEGO made trains - and you can control them remotely with a Pilot!"
Ed
In lugnet.robotics.palm, Mike Kory writes:
> I'm not 100% positive, but I don't think you need the button release command
> if you are just using motor control commands.
> Mike
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> Robert Eddings <webmake@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:38513125.D77D9B64@bellsouth.net...
> > Mike Kory wrote:
> > > I don't have OmniRemote but this may help.
> > > The normal RCX commands are not consistent. When you send the same • command
> > > repeatedly, the command is slightly different on alternate commands. In
> > > other words the first time it sends "A" then "B" then back to "A" then • "B"
> > > etc. Also, the RCX sends commands back to the Tower on normal commands. • This
> > > may also cause some confusion.
> > >
> > > If you use the Remote Control commands you can get around all of these
> > > problems. They are always the same and the RCX doesn't send a response.
> > >
> > > --Mike
> >
> > That's good advice. I forgot to mention to Ed that having the RCX on
> > will confuse OmniRemote because of the return IR from the RCX. The
> > problem I have found with using the LEGO remote commands to train
> > OmniRemote is the final d2 command (0x0000) that is needed at the end of
> > the command chain. The LEGO remote control repeats the action command
> > while the button is pressed and then sends the 0x0000 on button release.
> > OmniRemote cannot duplicate this because it does not send "on button
> > release" signals. OmniRemote does allow macro commands to be assigned to
> > buttons but I don't see how this could help.
> >
> > Robert Eddings
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Message has 2 Replies:
 | | Re: Training OmniRemote for RCX commands
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| Ed, yes the RCX is acknowledging most commands. It does not do this with the commands used in LRemote ((URL) -- I'm stuck on the old name too, for the same reason). The motor commands used in LRemote are repeating commands. As long as you hold down (...) (25 years ago, 12-Dec-99, to lugnet.robotics.palm)
| | | Re: Training OmniRemote for RCX commands
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| Ed, LEGO does not use IrDA protocol but this is not the problem with OmniRemote. OmniRemote simply records any IR it detects at training and transmits a copy of the signals no matter what format they are in. I believe the two main problems with (...) (25 years ago, 12-Dec-99, to lugnet.robotics.palm)
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| | Re: Training OmniRemote for RCX commands
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| I'm not 100% positive, but I don't think you need the button release command if you are just using motor control commands. Mike Robert Eddings <webmake@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:38513125.D77D9B...uth.net... (...) command (...) "B" (...) (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.robotics.palm)
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