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Subject: 
Re: Robotics subgroups by mail (was: sensors)
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.robotics
Date: 
Tue, 21 Dec 1999 01:17:48 GMT
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[I'm replying to an email that Stuart Crenshaw wrote.  He said it was OK to
quote him here and reply for everyone's benefit.  I quoted his reply inline
below to fit into the thread.]


In a first email message, Stuart Crawshaw wrote:
In lugnet.robotics, Todd Lehman wrote:
In lugnet.robotics, gombos@ne.infi.net writes:
I also fail to see why a seperate group is needed. If a seperate group is
made, then all the people from this list that do not suscribe to the
subgroup cannot participate in dicussions, unless they go to the website,
or use a news reader.

Nope, that statement as a whole is not correct.  It's partially correct in
that people who subscribe only to the lego-robotics@crynwr.com mailing list
would indeed not automatically see a new sensors subgroup of lugnet.robotics,
but it's not correct about the website/newsreader requirement.

I guess this bears repeating again:  All lugnet groups are subscribeable four
different ways:

   1.  NNTP - news, via port 119, 1119, 8000, or 8000
   2.  HTTP - web
   3.  SMTP - email mailing list
   4.  SMTP - email digest

Thus, it's a simple matter of subscribing to any new subgroup via email.

But you can only *post* to lugnet newsgroups by NNTP or HTTP, right?

No, you actually can post to lugnet newsgroups via e-mail (not just via NNTP
or HTTP).


So it
maybe depends what you mean by 'participate'... if you only have email
then you can read all you want, but not reply to anything (lurker's
paradise ;-) )

The lugnet news-by-mail subsystem is actually a fully bidirectional gateway
that even supports crossposting and followups correctly via SMTP<->NNTP
header mappings.

   NNTP (news)        SMTP (email)
   -------------      -------------
   Newsgroups:   <=>  To:
   Followup-To:  <=>  Reply-To:


If I'm wrong about that, please do let me know, as I'd love to be able to
participate more fully in other areas than .robotics!

(One aspect that was correct, though, is that digests can't be responded to
via email.  This is because each digest message is a composite message with
its own unique one-time message-id.  If a digest is responded to via email,
it messes up the threading because a reply doesn't have a parent article
node.  But each message within a digest does contain a quick link to jump
right to the article on the website, where you can easily reply.)


In a second email message, Stuart wrote:
Certainly - I'm quite surprised though: I did once try replying to a
lugnet.* message and had an error message telling me to visit the website
or newsserver... oh well, maybe should have asked you before ;-0

Most likely, the message was just asking you to visit the news-posting setup
page:

   http://www.lugnet.com/news/post/setup/

because it didn't yet recognize your 'From:' header as a known and valid
poster.  (You only need to fill this form out once for each email address
you intend to post from, and thereafter you can post to all lugnet groups.)

--Todd



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  Re: Robotics subgroups by mail (was: sensors)
 
(...) Nope, that statement as a whole is not correct. It's partially correct in that people who subscribe only to the lego-robotics@crynwr.com mailing list would indeed not automatically see a new sensors subgroup of lugnet.robotics, but it's not (...) (25 years ago, 18-Dec-99, to lugnet.robotics)

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