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Subject: 
Robotics subgroups by mail (was: sensors)
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lugnet.robotics, lugnet.admin.general
Date: 
Fri, 17 Dec 1999 23:07:58 GMT
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Richard Memory <rmemory@zinc.com> wrote:
Hi Todd,

Thanks for the explanation. Sorry to take more of your time .....

I guess my only issue with sub-groups is simply that I prefer receving my
messages through the lego-robotics@crynwr.com list rather than a newsreader. I
kinda compare this to the fact that although I can go out to the web every day
to read my local newspaper, I would much rather have the paper delivered to my
me. If I miss a few days of reading the list, all I have to do is filter
through my email. Sort of a fine line there, but I'm not going to belabor the
point. I simply prefer the email list to a newsreader.

At any rate, it seems that the lego-robotics@crynwr email list only sends the
messages posted to lego.robotics. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't
appear that I can receive any of the messages posted to the subgroups through
this email list.

That's correct.  The lego-robotics@crynwr.com list is gatewayed with
lugnet.robotics only and does not receive messages posted to any of its
subgroups.


If this is true, then I personally would rather not see any subgroups at all.
I would like to read or have the decision to not read everything that is
posted in those groups. As it is now, I belive I most likely miss some
interesting threads that are posted to the subgroups. As it is now, during the
year I've been on the list, I've never seen anything posted to lugnet.robotics
that I consider "off-topic". IMHO, I really don't want to see if fragmented
further.

I guess a possible solution might be to create an email list for every
subgroup. But, I'm not sure this is feasible. My guess is that its not.

Well, in that case, I've got Killer News for ya!  :)  Not only is it feasible,
but it's already done!  All lugnet groups have been subscribeable by email
(as mailing lists) since late October of 1998 and as digests (optionally)
since February of 1999.  It's only a few clicks to get set up.


Is there any good solution for those like me on the email list who want to
remain on the email list?

Yup!  Simply subscribe to the whole lot (or any subset you choose) via email.
To set it up, point your web browser here:

   http://www.lugnet.com/news/mail/setup/

and after you get your confirmation code via email (which confirms that you
can receive mail at the address you gave), continue on to here:

   http://www.lugnet.com/news/mail/

and pick the groups you want, using the listboxes and radio buttons to set
your digest or no-digest options.  Here's the announcement that went out in
February announcing and describing the digest feature:

   http://www.lugnet.com/news/raw.cgi?lugnet.robotics:3927


Below, for example, is how my email inbox looked this morning (I'm subscribed
to most groups directly via NNTP, but I also like get to a few of the more
active European loc groups like Denmark, Italy, and the UK via email digests
because they're easier to scan quickly that way.)

Subject                                                           Date    Size
===============================================================  =======  ====
lugnet.admin.statistics (1999.12.17.1000) #736-737 (2 articles)  5:00 AM  59KB
lugnet.cad.dat.models (1999.12.17.1000) #885-886 (2 articles)    5:01 AM  16KB
lugnet.loc.dk (1999.12.17.1000) #102-108 (7 articles)            5:02 AM  16KB
lugnet.loc.it (1999.12.17.1000) #479-507 (29 articles)           5:02 AM  34KB
lugnet.loc.uk (1999.12.17.1000) #2389-2403 (15 articles)         5:03 AM  24KB
etc.


Finally, here's a list of all the lugnet.robotics.* groups, adapted from the
<http://www.lugnet.com/sitemap.cgi?/robotics/> sitemap...


    lugnet.robotics - Building, creating, and developing with added
    technologies:  the LEGO MINDSTORMS™ RIS, other programmable bricks,
    vision systems, bar-code readers, radio controlled units, research sites,
    microcode / embedded programming, etc.

        lugnet.robotics.codepilot - LEGO TECHNIC Code Pilot™ programmable
        brick and protocol:  software, Code Cards, bar codes, interaction with
        LEGO MINDSTORMS programmable bricks, other technical issues;
        troubleshooting, questions, tips & tricks; etc.

        lugnet.robotics.cybermaster - LEGO TECHNIC CyberMaster™ programmable
        brick:  software, ideas, radio link, connections to/from/with other
        programmable bricks and host machines, in-depth technical details,
        etc.

        lugnet.robotics.edu - Learning and teaching with robotics:  LEGO®
        robotics in the classroom; investigatory projects and project learning;
        project questions, suggestions, success stories, developments, etc.;
        reuse of old technologies and enabling learning about new technologies
        and putting them in viable perspective; collaboration, synergy,
        encouragement, and comradeship of many people sharing unique interests,
        relevant information, and skills; fusion of educators, engineers,
        hackers, hobbyists, kids, etc.

        lugnet.robotics.events - Organized events, competitions, tournaments,
        shows, etc.:  announcements, ideas, collaboration, planning,
        experiences, analysis, discussions, etc.

            lugnet.robotics.events.robot-arena - Focused discussion group for
            Robot Arena, an autonomous combat tournament using the LEGO®
            MINDSTORMS™ RIS

        lugnet.robotics.handyboard - Focused discussion group for the Handy
        Board device:  distribution of information of any sort about obtaining,
        debugging, or using the Handy Board design; troubleshooting problems;
        exchanging ideas and techniques; sharing code; etc.

        lugnet.robotics.logo - Discussion group for projects and educational
        activities involving LEGO® and the Logo programming language

        lugnet.robotics.microscout - Alternative firmware or software for
        Micro Scout™ programmable brick from LEGO® MINDSTORMS™ RIS:  in-depth
        technical discussions, collaboration, planning, architecture, analysis,
        etc.

        lugnet.robotics.palm - Palm Computing® devices as they relate to LEGO
        robotics:  remote control, remote programming, tools, diagnosis,
        in-depth IR/IrDA issues, etc.

        lugnet.robotics.rcx - Alternative firmware or software for RCX™
        programmable brick from LEGO® MINDSTORMS™ RIS:  in-depth technical
        discussions, collaboration, planning, architecture, analysis, etc.

            lugnet.robotics.rcx.java - Focused discussion group for
            JVM/Java™/Jini™ firmware or software for the LEGO® MINDSTORMS™
            RIS:  in-depth technical discussions, collaboration, planning,
            architecture, analysis, release schedules, problem reports,
            success stories, etc.

            lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos - Focused discussion group for legOS,
            an unofficial replacement firmware package for the LEGO®
            MINDSTORMS™ RIS:  in-depth technical discussions, collaboration,
            planning, architecture, analysis, release schedules, problem
            reports, success stories, etc.

            lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc - Focused discussion group for NQC ("Not
            Quite C"), an unofficial language and compiler for programming
            the LEGO® MINDSTORMS™ RIS:  in-depth technical discussions,
            collaboration, planning, architecture, analysis, release
            schedules, problem reports, success stories, etc.

            lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth - Focused discussion group for
            pbFORTH, an unofficial replacement firmware package for the LEGO®
            MINDSTORMS™ RIS:  in-depth technical discussions, collaboration,
            planning, architecture, analysis, release schedules, problem
            reports, success stories, etc.

            lugnet.robotics.rcx.robolab - Focused discussion group for ROBOLAB,
            a graphical environment for programming the LEGO® MINDSTORMS™ RIS:
            questions, comments, tips & tricks, success stories, projects for
            the classroom, release notices, etc.

        lugnet.robotics.scout - Alternative firmware or software for Scout™
        programmable brick from LEGO® MINDSTORMS™ RIS:  in-depth technical
        discussions, collaboration, planning, architecture, analysis, etc.

        lugnet.robotics.tele - Telerobotics: remote operation, mobility,
        exploration, video, etc.; process control and automation; Web-
        controlled robots and other Internet, LAN, network, or groupware
        environments, applications, etc.

        lugnet.robotics.vll - Focused discussion group for LEGO® MINDSTORMS™
        Visible Light Link™ (VLL™) protocol and API:  in-depth technical
        discussions, troubleshooting, code development, legal/patent
        issues, fiber-optics, light sensors, etc.


--Todd

p.s.  The command to unsubscribe from the lego-robotics@crynwr.com list
(once you're successfully subscribed to lugnet.robotics) is to send a
message to: lego-robotics-unsubscribe@crynwr.com .




Thanks,

Richard

[This was technically a followup to my own post, but I'm actually replying to a
different message someone sent via e-mail in response to the one I posted.
Richard gave me permission to republish his email message here and respond to
it publicly...]



Message has 1 Reply:
  Re: Robotics subgroups by mail (was: sensors)
 
Todd, Now that everyone has been properly schooled of the ins and outs of receiving some or all robotics posts (thank you for teaching everyone), can I have my robotics.sensors? *down on floor begging* (25 years ago, 18-Dec-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.admin.general)

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  Re: sensors (was: Re: New newsgroup lugnet.loc.eu)
 
(...) Well, that depends on your newsreader, actually. Rob is indeed correct about what he thought he saw. :) Most newsreaders don't have a feature to coalesce groups in a hierarchy into a single virtual group, but the LUGNET web interface is magic (...) (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.admin.general)

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