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Re: Mindstorm Robotwars style competition in Southern California/Los Angesles area?
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Tue, 12 Jan 1999 05:53:25 GMT
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Mark Tarrabain wrote:

Looks pretty cool.  But how do you figger that, using the Mindstorms RCX,
one would be able to drive 4 or more motors as mentioned in the heavyweight
and freeweight categories?  While you can surely drive two or more motors
off any one of the three ports, I can't see how that could be particularly
useful in a robot. What can you do with two motors that run identically that
you can't do with just one motor and a few gears?  (Perhaps I'm just
shortsighted... if somebody could give me an example of where it is
advantageous to run two separate motors off one control port, I'd be
interested in knowing what it is.)

No using the IR port to shut down opponents, huh?  Rats.  :)

On another track, am I mistaken in my interpretation of the categories, or
do none of the weight categories allow the incorporation of
non-Mindstorms/RoboSports components?  I do not believe that is a good
idea.  I would suggest that you instead divide the weight categories by
direct mass alone.  Since the limitation of only using real LEGO components
is already clearly laid out in rule #1, allowing people the flexibility of
doing whatever they want within a given mass frame will probably be more
likely to produce a greater variety in the appearance and functionality of
the entrants.

Mark

I believe that if you use more motors driving the same wheel, you will
obtain more torque/speed/acceleration/power.

I liked the idea of divisions based on number of Motors and Max Absolute
Weight instead of based on set usage.  It would be too laborious to
check each robot to see if only valid set parts were used.  Perhaps a
box dimension size limit could also be helpful.

For Example: Motors Max Weight Volume
Light <= 2 1 lb 6"x6"x6"
Medium    3 3 lb 12"x12"x12"
Heavy    5 6 lb 18"x18"x18"
Unlimited    ? None None

I'm not particularly attached to these figures, in fact, I'm just
pulling these out of thin air, seems reasonable though.  Suggestion?

OK, so I'll commit and say I'd be interested in organizing this thing
for the So Cal/LA area, but I'll need some serious help.  My schedule is
pretty chaotic and I don't have a web page/server that I can setup a
site on.

Send replies if interested in becoming an Organizer or if you've already
begun to organize something like this I'd be willing to help.

Regards,
Dave Chen
dcchen@pacbell.net



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  Re: Mindstorm Robotwars style competition in Southern California/Los Angesles area?
 
(...) I'm not too sure about creating any motor limitation at all. Since motors are usually pretty heavy objects (for LEGO), as a person incorporates more of them, they would be forced to make comprimises in other areas of the robot. I'm not too (...) (26 years ago, 12-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
  Re: Mindstorm Robotwars style competition in Southern California/Los Angesles area?
 
(...) I know the figures are just a suggested starting point, but I think the volume should be a total in cubic inches. For example: the Light class above would be 6"x6"x6"=216 cubic inches. This would off contestants the option to built large & (...) (26 years ago, 14-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)

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  Re: Mindstorm Robotwars style competition in Southern California/Los Angesles area?
 
Looks pretty cool. But how do you figger that, using the Mindstorms RCX, one would be able to drive 4 or more motors as mentioned in the heavyweight and freeweight categories? While you can surely drive two or more motors off any one of the three (...) (26 years ago, 12-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)

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