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Re: The Great Ball Contraption
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Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:22:12 GMT
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In lugnet.robotics, Brian Davis wrote:
   In lugnet.robotics, Jordan Bradford wrote:

   I got super-motivated and built myself a ball pump last night.

Wow, nearly untouched territory... pumping Steve’s... oh, never mind.

On a more pratical note, does your pump meet the height requirement for the GBC? I’ve got two ball pumps working, but both have the same problem - allowing room under the hopper for the piston mechanism makes it hard to have a deep hopper (and I’d really hate to use a “high hopper” for the ball pump that has to be filled from the standard input via another mechanism).

I don’t know if it fits into the standard or not. I didn’t plan on using it as my first device, anyway. I’m going to build a simple large hopper for the previous person’s contraption to feed into mine, and then I’ll have a feed chute or something. Maybe I’ll use a conveyor/bucket mechanism to get balls out of the initial input.

  
   it’s jam-proof if the marbles come once every second or so.

Mine has no problem with jamming, but occassionally problems with “clotting” in the hopper starving the pump itself. Can yours handle a crate of balls dumped all at once? I wonder what the ultimate percentage of “continuous output” vs. “batch output” modules will end up at.

My tiny little “hopper” for the pump does “clot” as you say, which is a problem everyone’s going to encounter sooner or later. But I can guarantee nothing will get stuck if the balls come one at a time.

  
   keeping tension in the tread links is proving difficult. Any ideas on how to do that?

If you need constant tension, one way to do it is tensioner. A third gear in the chain, that can be moved in and out changing the shape (& therefore length) of the triangular chain path. This doesn’t have to be hand-tuned either - use a idler gear on a small free-swingin arm that is held in tension by a weight or rubber band.

Heh, once again my over-engineering defeats me. I tried using two shock absorbers to push a gear into the hanging part of the chain, but they just torqued the gear so that the chain wouldn’t move. I should always try the simplest approach from now on. Thanks for the tip.

  
   One suggestion for people: I don’t like mystery mechanisms.

Well, one of the ball pump designs I’ve built can have one side of the mechanism built out of clear panels... that is, if I could *get* any of them. After I built it, I found S@H had run out, and Bricklink has (currently) *one*. Sigh... Also, most of my designs are ending up rather skeletal, due to the lack of pieces left for building.

Lack of parts. Yep. Most of my contraptions will be skeletal for the same reason. However, I have a 4561 (4160), and that has a lot of transparent panels for the windows. I used one of those for the part of the pump that I think people would consider mysterious. Now they can see each ball being lowered under the column of balls and pushed up into it.



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(...) I'm not exactly sure how many "teeth" = 1 stud, but I know it's not a whole number. So, I've found if you can change the length by 1 or 2 studs, and add a few chain links, you don't need to add a tensioner. Steve (20 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.robotics)

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(...) Wow, nearly untouched territory... pumping Steve's... oh, never mind. On a more pratical note, does your pump meet the height requirement for the GBC? I've got two ball pumps working, but both have the same problem - allowing room under the (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.robotics, FTX)

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