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Re: Extreme Mindstorms Book Question
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Tue, 27 Mar 2001 03:55:33 GMT
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Henry,
I would have to disagree about the non-Mindstorms book part. If you could
point out particular books that you liked then that would be helpful.
When I was researching for ideas for my book I searched on sites like Amazon
for "robot" and bought every book that was under $50 and read them. Only one
robot book (which actually wasn't even sold on Amazon) that I bought, from
robotbooks.com I think it was, actually inspired a chapter in the book. It was
"Bohm, Harry, and Jensen, Vickie. Build Your Own Underwater Robot and Other
Wet Projects. 1997. Westcoast Words, Vancouver, B.C. Canada" which inspired
me to make a sink-submarine.
Most of the robotics books I read covered mechanical nuts-and-bolts
construction (not all that applicable really), electronics (remotely applicable
if you want to make your own sensors i suppose), and very specific (and often
overly complex -- not the kind of "neural net" stuff that Gordon is looking
for) combinations of the two. In other words, I didn't find people discussing
*algorithms* for robot *behavior* all that much, which I think is what Gordon
is getting at. In fact, most books I saw didn't have much
programming/behaviors at all. I sold most of them on Amazon zShops because I
didn't need them anymore.
Here are some of the ones I am talking about:
(I am not saying that these books are good or bad, but just that they didn't
serve my purpose of providing suitable inspiration/education about LEGO
Mindstorms robots.)
Davies, Bill. Practical Robotics. 1997. WERD Technology, Inc.
Iovine, John. Robots, Androids, and Animatrons: 12 Incredible Projects You Can
Build! 1998. MacGraw-Hill.
Jones, Joseph, L., Seiger, Bruce. A., and Flynn, Anita. Mobile Robots. 1999
(second edition). A.K. Peters. (I made the analog bumper car, which is the
first project in the book - although I used LEGO, and then got a kick out of
the "go ahead and try to read this circuit diagram" second project)
McComb, Gordon. Gordon McComb's Gadgeteer's Goldmine! 55 Space-Age Projects.
1990. TAB Books.
Raucci, Richard. Personal Robotics: Real Robots to Construct, Program, and
Explore the World. 1999. A.K. Peters.
I'd be more specific but I don't have the books around anymore to look at.
> If one wants to look for truly "advanced" books, I suggest looking for
> robotics books, not Mindstorms books. Most things covered in general
> robotics books can be applied to Mindstorms.
>
> //Henry Chea
> hchea@kungstorget.nu
> *S* Göteborg, jaja, jag behöver inget mer! *S*
> http://www.kungstorget.nu
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| (...) I agree that finding books on behaviour is a bit difficult.. That dives into the big world of computer programming... The robotics books I am referring to are at college now, and next time I'm on campus I'll look up their names (sorry for the (...) (24 years ago, 27-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| (...) Perhaps this is because many of the authors have had Mindstorms webpages up before they published any books. True, if one is willing to spend a few hours researching on the web, one can find more info on Mindstorms than any one book can cover. (...) (24 years ago, 26-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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