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Re: Extreme Mindstorms Book Question
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Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:25:44 GMT
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This may have to do with the (debatable) fact that the Lego Mindstorms RIS
is _not_ an "advanced robotic platform" It was engineered so that the
average 12+ year old could play around with robotics concepts. It was never
meant to to be the be-all of robotic platforms. I know none of us are asking
it to be, and we as a community have done wonders in minimizing its
limitations (MIBO, multiplexing, etc.). But, those of us asking for
Mindstorms books about concepts better left to devices dedicated to hobbyist
robotics (Bot-Board II, Mini-Robo-Minds, Pics, Amtel AVRs, even Basic
Stamps), and are comfortable with advanced robotics design and
implementation, are bound to be dissapointed. So I agree, the best course of
action would be to look at _non_ Mindstorms robot books, and adapt. Granted,
it will be harder, not having the work done, And some may not be possible,
but it will be your best bet. Keep in mind, the RCX, Scout, etc. can only go
so far. And, personally, I'm dreading the day when we see something that all
of us can look at it and say, "Now, that's the _furthest_ this technology an
be pushed!"

--Electro--

In lugnet.robotics, Gordon Bentley writes:
I have to disagree here. I have looked at all the current Mindstorms books
and NONE of them are much use to the advanced user. I have only been into
Minstorms for 4 months, but everything in these books, I had either figured
out for myself, or found on the net inside a week of buying my RIS.

As I have been discovering, there is very little available for the
"advanced" user. By advanced, I mean, they have a solid grounding in all the
engineering, physics, and math as applied to robotics. And lots of practice
applying it.

I would love there to be some useful stuff for "advanced" users either in
print, or online, but it doesn't seem to exist.

Gordon

PS This is in no way an attack on this book (or any of the others) it is
just a comment regarding the usefulness of these books to advanced users.




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(...) Agreed. I think that is a long way though. If you look at a lot of the current research, it is about tiny systems. I don't want information on large and complex systems, but clever systems. I am really keen to have my robots learn for (...) (24 years ago, 26-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics)

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I have to disagree here. I have looked at all the current Mindstorms books and NONE of them are much use to the advanced user. I have only been into Minstorms for 4 months, but everything in these books, I had either figured out for myself, or found (...) (24 years ago, 26-Mar-01, to lugnet.robotics)

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