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Don't forget about marketing, packaging, and support costs and profit. And all those little plastic building parts. Though a new NXT will cost you and me $256, it probably only cost LEGO less than $50. So now $8 (I price I saw in this thread) is (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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My questions are mostly directed to Steve H. because I believe that he has more FLL experience than the other MUP's (sorry if I'm wrong guys). I'm wondering what your thoughts are on how NXT is going to affect FLL. I've been bipoler ever since LEGO (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) There could be other factors... Battery life (I have no idea what more flash would do to the battery life) Space/Size constraints (adding more memory may take up more room inside the NXT brick and/or require more PCB traces etc) Heat/power (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) Probably not since most of the LEGO Education product line is available from the LEGO Education store: (URL) (20 years ago, 14-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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Even more interesting (and somewhat of concern) is this snippet from their FAQ page: Quote: "Exclusive to schools will accessories that allow them to use parts of their old kits with the new." WHAT?? Does that mean that the existing Mindstorms users (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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Bill Ward writes: > Also, I asked about the power adapters for the NXT bricks. He said > that there will not be a power adapter port in the NXT sold by LEGO > Education, but that they would offer a special rechargeable battery > pack which can be (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | Re: GBC and NXT...so bright I gotta wear shades
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Steve Hassenplug writes: > You know about the MUP, so you know they ARE listening to us. This > may be a good place to point out that LEGO HAS realized how > important all this stuff is to us (AFOLs). Did you mention that if they don't get it right, (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | RE: new Mindstorms servos?
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(...) micromotor assembly, then this is probably a space saving. And it is most definately a saving in complexity. Hmm... If the rotation sensor is directly connected to the motor, then it can't detect rotation when the motor slips (e.g., you've got (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) used with the NXT brick". Doh! Never mind... --Russ -----Original Message----- From: Russell C. Brown [RR-1] [mailto:rcbrown@austin.rr.com] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:40 PM To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com Subject: RE: new Mindstorms (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) need higher rpm. (...) In fact, doesn't the different connector on the NXT say I can't? Nothing we've seen yet suggests that the NXT can talk to the RCX or any of its motors or sensors. --Russ (20 years ago, 14-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) Found this too; (URL) mention of; "a converter cable so existing LEGO robotics sensors and motors can be used with the NXT brick". JB (20 years ago, 14-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) When LEGO are able to sell as many NXTs as Nokia does mobile phones, I'll accept that as a valid comparison. ROSCO (20 years ago, 14-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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hi Kevin -- I think you missed my point. I accept NXT's limitations. What I'm saying is, we *can* do the sorts of things I outline, with the platform as given, if we get enough developers interested in contributing. I was going to post this anyway, (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) Chris, I don't believe I've ever taken the stance that I don't want more memory in the NXT. I can't imagine that I'd ever take that position. I'm not opposed to more memory, but I am trying to see, understand and share what little I know about (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) I can to. But, I don't think I can force a redesign (to put it mildly). So... how do we fix this problem? I mean, the idea of "only three sensors" didn't last long with the RCX (I generally shun custom hardware, yet regularly use 4 or more (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) Well, let me make my position clear. I want more memory too, and I understand Danny and Steve B. want for more memory too. But you can't get somethin for nuttin'. My initial reaction was "64K !?!? You mean M right? DRAM is cheap!". But LEGO (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) EXACTLY. And my three-month-old cell phone has 4M of memory (which is needs because it has a camera in it), but my not-born-yet NXT will have 256k+64k. Over eight years, most devices have increased in memory capacity by a factor of maybe 100 (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) Kevin, While I agree with your points regarding cost/features; and I can understand the view of the "need more memory" crowd. I think what needs to be expressed more "eloquently" is the fact that while starting from the ground up, Lego seemed (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) Sorry Steve, But, are you saying because ~YOU~ or your group can not imagine it, then is should not or cannot be done? Chris (20 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) Hi Dan, Your desire to have cutting edge robotics computing technology at your fingertips is compelling and *very* understandable. The robotics challenges you want to overcome sound very interesting. Where you and I differ is expecting to be (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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