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Subject: 
™ ™ and [tm] woes
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lugnet.publish
Date: 
Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:02:10 GMT
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In lugnet.publish, Jacob Sparre Andersen writes:
Todd Lehman (lehman@javanet.com) wrote:
Since you know so much about this, can I ask another follow-up question?--
Is  ™  "safer" (i.e., more likely to show up as the TM symbol) to use
than  ™ ?

I would expect ™ to be just as likely to work as ™ today. I
expect ™ to be phased out sometime, but I don't know when (it might
happen with NC5.0).

How big is that in relation to the regular capital letters T and M in that
typeface?  And is it raised above the baseline?

You can see the rendering of

<P>
   T M &#153; --- &#8482; T M<BR>
<P>
[tm]=&#8482;

at <URL:http://hugin.risoe.dk/temp/trademark_symbol>. It looks like NC
substitutes the trademark symbol with [tm], if it can't find it in the
current font.

Oh, man, I see what you mean now.  I can't believe how braindead Netscape
4.61 for RHLinux/Gnome is under the default install.  Not having the actual
tm symbol is one thing, but it actually converts it to a 4-byte character
string!!  :-(  BLYECH!

In other words, you output

   <INPUT TYPE=TEXT NAME="foo" VALUE="Millennium Falcon&#8482;">

and what _actually_goes_into_ the edit box is

   Millennium Falcon[tm]

just like that!  EGAD!  HELP!  It's evil!

It should instead be putting in some full-8-bit-binary character which just
happens to display as [tm], but not putting in ASCII '[', followed by 't',
followed by 'm', followed by ']'.

Any ideas what can I do to fix this so that Nutscrape under RHL/Gnome doesn't
ruin edit fields like that?

--Todd



Message is in Reply To:
  Re: Best way to write the registered trademark symbol in HTML?
 
(...) I would expect &#8482; to be just as likely to work as &#153; today. I expect &#153; to be phased out sometime, but I don't know when (it might happen with NC5.0). (...) You can see the rendering of <P> T M &#153; --- &#8482; T M<BR> <P> (...) (26 years ago, 11-Jan-99, to lugnet.publish)

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