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		Re: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing"
(...) If I were to pose the hypothesis--"If I were to let go of a hammer, the hammer would fall. I do not have to watch the hammer fall to see that this is true."--what does it matter where this hypothesis came from? This line (paraphrased to be (...) (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing"
(...) Ok, that would eliminate the rotation. (...) Since your original problem statement assumed there was no problem with a molten core, I think it's also reasonable to assume the water isn't a problem (you can make a dam from all the earth you (...) (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing"
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) If the point that still stands is "Everything in parenthesis was added by David", that is correct. If, however, the point that still stands is "and is incorrectly associated with the (...) (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing"
(...) Very nicely put, Larry... However, my point was outlined with the second reasoning you made--that given a list of claims, (FEF1 (blood), FEF2 (DNA), FEF3 (motive), FEF4 (whatever)... FEFn) and one of those claims was refuted, it does not mean (...) (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing"
(...) I'm not sure I agree here. A bit of logic might help. If I assert: (-> == implies ) A -> B and B -> C and C -> D are all true , and thus A -> D is true and provide facts or evidence FAB in support of A -> B FBC in support of B -> C FCD in (...) (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Idealism vs Realism?
(...) No truer words were ever written. The North American Game Preserve -- replete with X-Box, 17" flatscreens, downloaded porn, the boat in the drive, the BMW-Mercedes-whathaveyou parked behind it, a room full of lego... ...hey, that could be my (...) (22 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing"
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) Please don't call me Shirley. How does one explain the movie "Airplane" to anyone else? It's one of my favourite "funniest of all-time" movies... it comes across like the Stooges, but (...) (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Idealism vs Realism?
(...) Yeah, that is bad. But how about imprisoned with all of your attorneys? (URL) about jailed without bail, right to an atty, or the possibility of a writ of habeas corpus? I'll leave it to Larry P. to provide the cites should the need arise (you (...) (22 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing"
Quoting David Koudys <dkoudys@redeemer.on.ca>: (...) I think it'll feel like you're rolling down a steep hill, constantly crashing against the eastern wall. (...) uh, why? gravity is pulling straight down, your momentum is at 90 degs to the force - (...) (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing"
(...) Well said Richard. What I would endeavour to change in the above, though, is, well, let me put it this way-- Having a debate where one side says, "This, this, this, this and this proves my point" (of course, all 'this''s are backed up by link (...) (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing"
(...) Everything in the paragraph was written by me and was exactly what I wanted to say with my first post about refuting an arguement by refuting one point--that by disputing one point of the list of evidence does not make all points null (...) (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing"
(...) Never thought about the rotation--there was an H.G. Wells story about a guy that was granted a wish and his was for the earth to stop spinning--turns out that when the wish was mentioned, the earth stopped instantly anad everything that wasn't (...) (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Idealism vs Realism?
(...) It was either he or Truman-- no, wait, Truman was the guy who made all Federal workers swear on a stack of Bibles they aren't Communists.... Maggie C. (22 years ago, 1-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Are we all processes in a simulation
(...) Are you saying you don't buy it? I finished it and I have to admit it's a persuasive argument as written. So either he's right or there is some assumption left out or logic flaw... (certainly possible!) To a certain extent it doesn't matter (...) (22 years ago, 24-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing"
(...) <snip> intellectual posturor! (...) This is what I meant by Spock phrasing it better--he said something like 'on a planet with positive gravity'--it's ST:TOS--when was the last time I caught one of those episodes? ;) I don't have to witness (...) (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing"
(...) Thank you for the clarification, on rereading I see that they are your words, my apologies. Point still stands though. (...) A list neither IS nor ISN'T a sequence (or chain of inferences, note the difference). Further it neither IS nor ISN'T (...) (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing"
(...) I think the point is that Leo perceives that people are distressingly apt to get their political views from fictional programs. No doubt Leo would include such fictions as the 700 Club and Rush Limbaugh's daily spew, as well as the film (...) (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		I don't "believe" in Australia (was Re: John Leo's opinion)
(...) Was that from "The Alternative Factor?" I haven't seen much TOS in quite a while, so my memory may be faulty. The problem is that his statement as you quoted it had no boundaries, so we could only assume that it applied to the universe at (...) (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing"
(...) Gosh, was it that many? The amusing thing is that in my very first post I noted that my answers to him were not entirely serious, nor did they particularly represent my own viewpoint. As to the "again?? this time??" I must note that I don't (...) (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing"
(...) Y'know, I've actually thought about Scott's communciation style here a little bit and my general impression is that he, like many of us, tries to read what is here and make reasonably quick responses without getting too bogged down in the (...) (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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