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		Re: Goodbye John Paul II
It is a pity that many of those lauding him now did not listen to him more in the build-up to the war in Iraq. Unlike them, he viewed all human life equally. Bush: "The world has lost a champion of peace and freedom." Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 4-Apr-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
(...) To be fair, you did say "I guess that's right," without disclaiming a whole lot of wiggle room. I can accept your more elaborate articuation below, but I hope you can see that my response wasn't inappropriate given your initially apparent (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Goodbye John Paul II
Commentators are already saying he may have been one of the most significant figures of the late 20th... they're right. Arguably he was a major part of the process that lessened the blight of Soviet communism on the world, his elevation and visits (...) (20 years ago, 3-Apr-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Mecha Legs
I have to say that I am glad that Larry has chosen to allow one to purchase the rights to make unlimited copies for personal use. This has allowed me to take the extra step to recognize Larry's contributions by actually buying a copy of the (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
(...) But let's be clear--that so-called elitist minority is arguing in favor of that which can be confirmed by independent observation and experiment, whereas Mummert et al are arguing that we should teach creationism because the bible says it's (...) (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
(...) Not at all! The first human reaction to that which is out of our control is to control or predict it. Understand it. Particularly if it's important to us. Understanding why the grass is green, for instance, is of far less importance to (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
(...) Yeah, like me! (...) That was unbelievable! First of all, I'm only vaguely aware of the song. I've never seen the (original) video, but I can imagine that it has been mimicked shot for shot! How funny, and yet at the same time sad. JOHN (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		These are the Daves I know Was some other debate
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton wrote: <snip> . Arguing is so much more fun :) (...) Do all Daves consider arguing fun? Or is that just the Daves around here? Dave K (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Copyrights and IP (was Re: Mecha Legs
(...) subject! (...) discount (...) I'm not sure either... But I don't think that's quite correct. if I buy a CD, I don't think I have the right to have it playing in both my car and my house at the same time. I could be wrong though. I'm pretty (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
Oh boy, I am in over my head on this one. Rather than analyse in depth every one of Chris's point by point responses (well done as usual), I think I'll try to take the easy way out and say why I think I'm on thin ice as a meat eater and leave it at (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
(...) snip of example I figured that you and I had been through all this already before. Proof in scientific terms is most certainly not in the eye of the beholder, but "proof" in that context doesn't mean the same thing as "proof" in a (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
(...) *snip* (...) I think I gave my answer in the post to which you replied: (URL) summary, it's entirely possible that no quantity of numbers is sufficient to prove that the theory is true as long as other potentially disproving numbers have (...) (20 years ago, 1-Apr-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: These are the Daves I know Was some other debate
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Rob Doucette wrote: Hey! What's a "Rob" doing in this thread? (...) ---...--- Too Many Daves ---...--- Did I ever tell you that Mrs McCave had twenty-three sons and named them all Dave? Well, she did. And that wasn't a (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
(...) The latter option is the one that they invariably choose, and sometimes they add that the veracity of the bible is not subordinate to a conflicting reality. Alas. (...) The difference with Helga is that (barring some odd preferences on your (...) (20 years ago, 2-Apr-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
(...) Well, the point is really "what if you could see into the past", not necessarily "what if you could travel to the past and do unspeakable things to temporal continuity, as great of an April Fools that would be". Again, let's say the WayBack (...) (20 years ago, 1-Apr-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
(...) sake of argument :) (...) Exactly correct, effectively. IE that any creationist must assume that at SOME point, your great-great-<insert greats here>-great-grandparents DIDN'T exist, because the generation after that was the first to appear, (...) (20 years ago, 1-Apr-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Terri Schiavo
(...) Don't forget that this apostle of the Culture of Life, during his tenure as governor of the great State of Texas, signed the bill that allowed hospitals to terminate life support against a family's wishes if such support was deemed too costly (...) (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
(...) Good builder? Really good at microscale? Worked on the LEGO Factory project? I think you're thinking of ROSS! (I've alleged before that Ross does all the good building in that family, J2 just takes the credit...) Seriously, ya, he's not bad. (...) (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
(...) You're attempting to repaint the issue along purely semantic rather than functional or philosophical lines, and thereby you're casting your vote in favor of creationism. An actual scientist is someone who practices actual science, as opposed (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Star Wars on DVD
(...) You're misunderstanding the nature of collusion; you and I aren't colluding to post to Lugnet, but we're both doing it. Likewise the recording industry isn't conspiring to keep CD prices high, but prices are high nonetheless. (...) Sure it (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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