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		Free Speech, again
(URL) I am as big a proponent of free speech as anyone I know, but I don't accept that corporations are citizens protected under the first amendment. Ditto any corporate executive or agent speaking on behalf of the corporation; the speech of *the (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Free Speech, again
(...) Wait a minute--show me where in the Constitution it is guaranteed that corporations have free speech. I'm not talking about some nebulous, fantasy market-of-ideas, but rather the actual Constitution, since that's what's being discussed in the (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Free Speech, again
(...) Well, maybe not. (...) They don't themselves have to be citizens for their actions to be protected. Engage in this thought experiment with me. Suppose I take out an ad in the paper that says "Hop Frog sometimes posts mean things in (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: La belle province
(...) I noticed the examples you gave were from nations where democracy was inexistent at the time of the breakup. So I ask: is a democratic nation immune to separatism? I mean, not the sociological phenomena in itself, rather the effective (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
(...) TIME WARP WARNING: My replies do not always follow a chronological sequence. Explanations to such lurk somewhere in the middle. (...) This (...) Aha! What we need is a Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy beast that kills it self (humanely). :-) (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Flesh eaters stole my brain (was Re: Why is cockfighting bad?
(...) What friends? ;-) (...) anything (...) I don't mind if you eat meat from vats. As I said, I might even do so a bit to try it out. I find myself very rarely wanting sausage or bacon. (...) Yup. (...) Let the technology and the market worry (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Flesh eaters stole my brain (was Re: Why is cockfighting bad?
This debate has been churning along (very) nicely (and quite civilly, as these go, I think the same old players are getting better at debating nicely) without too much input from me since I ducked and ran (:-) but one nugget here got me to thinking. (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Tim Robbins "Countering a Wave of Hate"
(...) Spot on, Scott. This is why Mr. Robbins should stick to acting rather than pretending to be a deep, political commentator and victim, because he doesn't know what he is talking about. He thinks his First Amendment rights are being violated (...) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Tim Robbins "Countering a Wave of Hate"
(...) Precisely. Well said, Scott. But Mr. Robbins isn't a deep enough thinker to understand what you (and others) are telling him. He'd rather just whine about how now everyone is out to get him. I don't see HIM standing up to defend the rights of (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz writes: (snipping all the things previous that I agree with - excellent analysis) (...) Indentured servitude did not give over the right to life, but it was form of slavery, so I would disagree with this (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
(...) our (...) So it is only now that it is immoral, and not in previous generations? Or was it a necessary immorality all along? Hmmmmm (I'm pondering this, by the way - the questions are just questions). (...) What if their culture chooses to (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Mecha Legs
(...) Indeed. Thanks for the reminder. (...) No, I wouldn't make that claim at all. It has happened already, in fact. I may not like it but so what? I said as much in a post to off-topic.debate (this slugfest is wriggling around to a lot of (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jul-00, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
(...) was (...) - (...) Fair enough. Hmmmm, situational ethics, though. Them's the breaks, I guess. (...) As long as they understand the situation...okay, I might not agree with what you define as evil, but its a reasonable process. (...) Yes, that (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Guess who's next?
(...) 17. Wow! This is what Isreal has defied between 48 & 92: Res 101, 106, 111, 127, 162, 171, 228, 237, 248, 250, 251, 256, 259, 262, 265, 267, 270, 271, 279, 280, 285, 298, 313, 316, 317, 332, 337, 347, 425, 427, 444, 446, 450, 452, 465, 467, (...) (22 years ago, 15-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: "I speak better English than this villain Bush"
(...) He was more portrayed as an uncoordinated klutz than a bumbling fool by the media (you needed to be in a bunker when he was playing golf, for example). I believe it was LBJ that saddled him with the infamous tag line of : "He can't walk and (...) (22 years ago, 15-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
(...) (snipping freely if I don't have a point to make) (...) Why is it clearly not needed? Because we are now clever enough to balance our diets properly such that we can get all the nurtients we need without resorting to meat? Is that true over (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
(...) I agree with this bit, but I'll get to sentience a bit further down. (...) Never? You allude further down to being close (at least) to buying in to the idea that you're rationallizing somewhere. Mightn't you change your mind? If not, why not? (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) You've got to stop using the slaves as an example, because you're hurting your argument. The slaves were forcibly removed from their homeland and forcibly kept at work here as property. They had no opportunity to renounce citizenship and leave (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) If it is being tampered with, then it isn't free. Or is that what you meant? (...) Building codes also prevent a wide array of construction techniques that are cheaper and safer because the building industry is entrenched in the code setting (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
Rearranged the order a bit. Chris said: (...) Zero-th order answer: None. To that approximation, we're in agreement. Chicken fighting is something I'd never indulge in, never bet on, and never view. Further, I'd rather my kids didn't play games that (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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