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Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
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Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:57:29 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:

I think there's a big difference b/w the two--in your case, the services you
receive via 'your tax dollar' aid you as well as your fellow man.

Right, and the "taxes" paid by the slaves -- in the form of 100% of their
productivity -- aided them as well as their fellows.  They were fed, clothed,
and housed without ever having to worry about those things.  And in some cases,
the system went so far that matches were made for them so that they didn't have
to go through the awkward and error-prone dating/mating rituals.  All of their
needs were seen to...right?

  You've got to stop using the slaves as an example, because you're hurting
your argument.  The slaves were forcibly removed from their homeland and
forcibly kept at work here as property.  They had no opportunity to renounce
citizenship and leave the US, which an option that you have.  They didn't
not enter into a social contract with the US, and as a result they didn't
have the option to enter their children into the same contract.
  Unless you identify your parents as slave traders who forcibly kept you in
the US against your will, and unless you claim that you have been, since the
age of majority, likewise forcibly kept in the US, then your analogy fails.
  Furthermore, it is frankly offensive that you identify the minor
inconvenience of your tax burden with the systematic (and the privately
maintained, I hasten to add) enslavement, abuse, and dehumanization of
millions of human beings.

     Dave!



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  Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
 
What are the criteria used to determine if an analogy is adequate? No analogy will be perfect because it isn't the exact situation that is being discussed. It is a tool used to point out certain particular similarities that are important to the (...) (21 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
 
(...) Right, and the "taxes" paid by the slaves -- in the form of 100% of their productivity -- aided them as well as their fellows. They were fed, clothed, and housed without ever having to worry about those things. And in some cases, the system (...) (21 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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